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"Boulder police are investigating the traffic signs as criminal tampering."

“I appreciate the fact that it’s drawing attention to the fact that we’d like people to slow down and not be on their phones, but there’s probably, again, a few more appropriate ways about getting that message out.”

I'd love if they implemented whatever appropriate ways they have.... then again they said appropriate, not effective.

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[–] ProgrammingSocks@pawb.social 4 points 4 hours ago

Stop de kindermoord

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.ml 4 points 13 hours ago

Put the sign on its own post in front of the city one and maybe they'll let it be

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 11 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

NSFW Traffic Signs

Telling people to not kill kids is not safe for work in USA? ...what does people in USA exactly do in work? O_o

[–] Farvana@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

"Get Off Your Damn Phone." "Slow The Fuck Down."

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 4 points 15 hours ago

What is even NSFW in the first one, unless it's traumatic event for them to get off the phone?
And in what job you don't hear or say "fuck" at least some?

[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 52 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I've been told by giant truck drivers that "kids shouldn't have been in the street" and "where were the parents" in response to news stories of literal kids being run over. Fuck their "not appropriate messaging", kids are dying and they're worried they may not be able to put on their extra tall lift kit.

Same thing with school shootings. "Oh it's not appropriate to talk gun violence right after". Well when the actual fuck is it okay, Martha? Maybe these people should feel a bit called out.

[–] Sauerkraut@discuss.tchncs.de 20 points 1 day ago (2 children)

"where were the parents"

Oooh, that grinds my gears. We all know helicopter parenting is harmful for children, but people freak out whenever kids are outside without a helicopter parent. It reminds me of the mother who was arrested for letting their 10 year old be outside unsupervised (cops said it wasn't safe for the kid to be outside on their own)

[–] Facebones@reddthat.com 8 points 15 hours ago

Then those are the same people whining that kids are on their phones all day and never get exercise or go outside like "back in our day" 🙄

[–] refalo@programming.dev 2 points 12 hours ago

Like life in general, there has to be a balance.

You can be not a helicopter while also teaching your kids not to go into the street.

[–] Halasham@dormi.zone 23 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Fuck decorum. I give negative damns about it given the extensive history of it being used as a shield to protect the facilitation of what amounts to mass murder. If dark skinned foreigners did ten percent the damage cars do we'd have used some of the nuclear arsenal but because it's fucking profitable innocent people die every day and little, if anything, is done about its root causes.

[–] ericbomb@lemmy.world 4 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (3 children)

Hah, your 10% is terrifying realistic.

Over 40,000 people die per year from motor accidents in the US.

9/11 was 3k.

But for some reason trying to convince people that we need to treat our car culture like an emergency of the utmost importance and priority the same way we would react to another country murdering random people like 9/11 and I'm being crazy.

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 1 points 5 hours ago

People are emotional. All of us, more or less. Some people also sometimes have other ways of engaging with the world.

But cars are emotional for people. So was 9/11. Facts don't really matter.

So when you tell someone something bad about cars, they have an emotional response and that's game over. Especially if they see you as out-group.

I don't know how to fix this but I think it's the root of all of our problems.

Maybe if we can get people to see experts as in-group again?

[–] Halasham@dormi.zone 3 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Just did some quick checking... it looks like the War on Terror as a whole averages well below the automotive catastrophe annually if we're looking at even the broad anti-terrorism coalition.

  • Everyone comes out to 45k
  • Everyone but terrorist combatants cuts that to 30.5k
  • Cutting terrorist combatants and civilians brings that to 10k

Brown University, death toll of the War on Terror

[–] ericbomb@lemmy.world 0 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

That's just sad for a lot of reasons.

[–] Halasham@dormi.zone 1 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Yeah,

I've taken to saying that we don't live in a great country, nor a good one, or even an acceptable one. No, what we have is one that should be put out of our collective misery.

[–] Laukidh@infosec.exchange 2 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

@ericbomb remember when six people died from black market weed vapes and the government banned flavored e-cigs?

[–] ericbomb@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago

Ugh we could probably talk all day about all the things the government intervened on for perceived dangers, and just ban something random to make it look like they addressed the thing.

If I go up to a politician and say "I need your help to ban a product that has killed 20,000 people this year! Will you take my cause?"

They'd act super enthusiastic until I say it's private pick up trucks.

[–] Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee 3 points 13 hours ago

Decorum and etiquette are but the genteel masks of a violent authority

[–] lnxtx@feddit.nl 3 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

I hope they will have a good attorney and understanding judge.

[–] ericbomb@lemmy.world 4 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

Or that none of their neighbors are narcs!

This is funny and they are just right.

[–] j4k3@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (2 children)

There is probably some legality involved. Signs have more than informative meaning, where not pursuing this officially has broader ramifications.

Just the unauthorized visual distraction factor can be used as a means of argument in court until the matter has precedent in case law established.

[–] ericbomb@lemmy.world 5 points 12 hours ago

See if that was actually a standard for driving, I'd understand.

But we have billboards, decorations, floppy men, people dancing on the side of the roads.

If all that is allowed, I can't really be offended by a sign saying "don't kill people" as a form of protest.

[–] finderscult@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Legal counter point, I can put up literally any sign on my property. In most states I can put up nearly any sign on public property without permission. See: any flyer stapled to a phone pole or any political sign on a corner.

The actual case here is the fact they tampered with public property without permission by permanently affixing their sign to the pole. Which is at most a fine.

[–] MNByChoice@midwest.social 3 points 15 hours ago

I expect if it were on it's own post it would be fine.

Obviously, I am not a lawyer.

[–] ltxrtquq@lemmy.ml 5 points 23 hours ago

Not to mention billboards, whose only purpose is to distract drivers and take their eyes off the road.

[–] Boomkop3@reddthat.com 3 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)

Well, some of these I do like. Not all of these signs are particularly helpful though

[–] ericbomb@lemmy.world 2 points 12 hours ago

I mean I'm never gonna hate on people who are peacefully/harmlessly protesting the amount of car deaths in the US.

Now if they started slashing tires randomly I'd disagree.

If they started slashing tires of people who killed/maimed another person from reckless driving, or regularly drives drunk and never got more than a slap on the wrist... well vigilantism is not something I will participate in at the current time. But I couldn't judge them.

[–] spittingimage@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Police: "You can't tell people to obey the law! Only we can tell people to obey the law!"

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Even if correct, aren't official looking signs going to confuse and distract drivers?

[–] ProgrammingSocks@pawb.social 1 points 4 hours ago

Do you travel by car much? There's lots of weird regional signs that only exist in certain counties. Not even a concern.

[–] ericbomb@lemmy.world 3 points 11 hours ago

I mean, if we care about confused and distracted drivers I have a LONG list of things I would put over caring about before this.

An extra street sign wouldn't register on my worry list.

[–] Farvana@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 15 hours ago

Like all the other official signs? They look official too.

[–] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 day ago

They'd need to look up from their phones, first.

[–] Hawke@lemmy.world 3 points 20 hours ago

If you’re confused about whether you should not kill any kids today, driving might not be for you.

[–] pineapple@lemmy.ml 1 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

If this is nsfw then I wonder what the australian tac ads count as. (Literally showing people getting hit buy cars and flung up into there to there death)

[–] Farvana@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 15 hours ago

One of the signs said "Slow The Fuck Down."

[–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 day ago

Of course, by "person", you meant "pleb". 🤌🏼