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Summary

Trump’s popular vote share has fallen below 50% to 49.94%, with Kamala Harris at 48.26%, narrowing his margin of victory.

Trump’s share of the popular vote is lower than Biden’s in 2020 (51.3%), Obama’s in 2012 (51.1%) and 2008 (52.9%), George W. Bush’s in 2004 (50.7%), George H.W. Bush’s in 1988 (53.2%), Reagan’s in 1984 (58.8%) and 1980 (50.7%), and Carter’s in 1976 (50.1%).

The 2024 election results highlight Trump’s narrow victory and the need for Democrats to address their mistakes and build a diverse working-class coalition.

The numbers also give Democrats a reason to push back on Trump’s mandate claims, noting most Americans did not vote for him.

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[–] DuckWrangler9000@lemmy.world -2 points 6 days ago (3 children)

The Democratic party is a lost cause. They NEVER take any responsibility for their actions. What they did this election should even be illegal. They had no primary, so as a Democratic voter, I had no choice in who I was voting for. They picked my candidate for me, and it wasn't even the incumbent! What's the point of a democracy where my vote doesn't matter, because THEY decide who I have to vote for? It's stupid! They keep doing it over and over. Before, they threw Bernie under the bus and backed Hillary whether we liked it or not. They keep making the same dumb mistakes over and over because they just don't care about working class people

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[–] Ithorian@lemmy.world -5 points 6 days ago (13 children)

People need to chill, he won by a good margin, stop trying to create drama on everything

I mean we're all fucked, so...seems like a good time to panic.

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[–] mercano@lemmy.world 156 points 1 week ago (8 children)

The fact that a majority of voters did not want Trump to win makes me simultaneously feel happy (that I’m not surrounded by idiots) and more depressed (that the Electoral College has screwed us AGAIN!)

[–] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 195 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

It's a lack of majority not a lack of plurality. Harris is still trailing Trump by 3m votes or so (and 1.6%), Trump is just not above 50% after further votes have been counted. So this isn't an electoral college steal

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 53 points 1 week ago (12 children)

Yeah, but even if Kamala wins the popular vote, this is going to be the closest a republican has gotten in..

Decades?

Maybe longer?

But the DNC is going to latch onto this and try to claim if they had moved just a little more right they'd have won.

Regardless of what happens, the DNC will always say the answer is moving to the right.

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[–] demesisx@infosec.pub 70 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (11 children)

FPTP should get FAR more attention as the culprit for this situation. Sure, the electoral college caused Kamala to lose (or whatever) but if we had a true democracy, there wouldn’t be only two possible parties to choose from.

FPTP

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[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 40 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Don't worry, you're still surrounded by idiots no matter who wins the presidency

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[–] testfactor@lemmy.world 117 points 1 week ago (1 children)

To be clear, because the headline I think is a bit misrepresentative. Trump still has over a million more votes than Harris. He just no longer has over 50% of the votes cast.

It's like 49% Trump, 48% Harris, 3% Other. So Trump still won the popular vote.

This isn't a "the Electoral College screwed us" situation. He still "won" the popular vote. He just didn't win a "majority" of the votes cast.

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[–] AidsKitty@lemmy.world 68 points 1 week ago (4 children)

This is a ridiculous argument. Orange man won the electoral college, got the most votes, won the senate, house of reps, the presidency, and the supreme court. What more is there to lose?

[–] Angrywaffle2@lemmy.world 0 points 6 days ago

Well the left lost thier sanity so everything else has become trivial.

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 0 points 6 days ago

He lost last time and we let him take it. We dont have to keep letting him steal the office

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 38 points 1 week ago (13 children)

Plenty of coping from the liberal corporate media, instead of admitting that liberals abandoned the working class to court the monied interests.

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[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 67 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (10 children)

58% of the deciding power with just under 50% of the vote?

This might be a catalyst for states to sign the NPVIC. Pennsylvania started the process to sign on this week in legislature.

Perhaps in the past, swing states enjoyed the attention they got.

Now, I have a feeling voters are frustrated from getting way too much attention with mailers, calls, texts, illegal lotteries, news stories, events. As a bonus, voters in swing states are and will be getting outsized blame for electing the returning rapist-in-chief. Anyways a potential silver lining in the impending sea of shit.

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[–] TommySoda@lemmy.world 49 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Wasn't it something like he only gained about 500,000 votes from the last primary election? The reason the Democrats lost was because they lost 10,000,000 due to people just straight up not voting for Kamala by either going 3rd party, switching to Trump, or abstaining. In my opinion it wasn't really Trump's popularity that won him the election but more of just the Democrats lack of popularity.

[–] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 35 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Democrats lack of popularity, coupled with active voter suppression tactics in numerous states, four straight years of misinformation campaigns designed to decrease voter turnout and/or drive them to third parties maliciously, and most critically, no more covid lockdowns allowing people the free time to vote. People working full time wage jobs that are most likely to vote more blue are, quite intentionally, not financially allowed to vote in person due to work scheduling; 2020 was an outlier year.

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[–] WrenFeathers@lemmy.world 48 points 1 week ago (5 children)

I mean…. Does it really matter?

[–] OldWoodFrame@lemm.ee 0 points 6 days ago

None of the news you read on this app matters. This is at least an interesting tidbit.

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[–] BruceTwarzen@lemm.ee 36 points 1 week ago (19 children)

Actually only 50% of us support the fat pedophile fascist.

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[–] cultsuperstar@lemmy.world 34 points 1 week ago (9 children)

It sucks that the Dems don't bother with a recount, even if it's still the same result. Republicans wanted recounts just about everywhere they could in 2020. Instead they just say "welp, looks like we lost. Here's the keys to the kingdom." Do some due diligence and have a damn recount.

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[–] 7112@lemmy.world 33 points 1 week ago (3 children)

The big problem is we all think someone else will solve this issue. All the investigations, congress, and even the public... they did nothing.

Run for office. Start small. Kick them out of the school boards follow their playbook and work bottom up.

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