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Summary

Trump’s popular vote share has fallen below 50% to 49.94%, with Kamala Harris at 48.26%, narrowing his margin of victory.

Trump’s share of the popular vote is lower than Biden’s in 2020 (51.3%), Obama’s in 2012 (51.1%) and 2008 (52.9%), George W. Bush’s in 2004 (50.7%), George H.W. Bush’s in 1988 (53.2%), Reagan’s in 1984 (58.8%) and 1980 (50.7%), and Carter’s in 1976 (50.1%).

The 2024 election results highlight Trump’s narrow victory and the need for Democrats to address their mistakes and build a diverse working-class coalition.

The numbers also give Democrats a reason to push back on Trump’s mandate claims, noting most Americans did not vote for him.

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[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 53 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Yeah, but even if Kamala wins the popular vote, this is going to be the closest a republican has gotten in..

Decades?

Maybe longer?

But the DNC is going to latch onto this and try to claim if they had moved just a little more right they'd have won.

Regardless of what happens, the DNC will always say the answer is moving to the right.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 31 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

The DNC brain trust is already claiming that they should go further to the right

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 17 points 1 week ago (2 children)

They were told they abandoned workers, and somehow heard "What if we betray Transpeople?"

[–] Vespair@lemm.ee 2 points 5 days ago

Corporations fund the big name democrats and their campaigns. These same corporations benefit greatly from Republican wins. They are buying intentionally ineffective democrats who are unincentivized to either win races or appeal to worker interests as they are typically directly at odds with these big bankrolling corporations.

I am not saying every democrat is paid for or every democrat is ineffective or democrats as a whole are an entirely bought and paid for organization, but what I am saying is that enough of the prominent enough democrats legitimately are financially disincentivized from helping the people they're supposed to represent so as to effectively gum up the works of the whole machine.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They're already starting to trial run the messaging through lower ranking democrats in safe seats. (Link)

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Well at least they're getting roasted for it, I mean in this link the aide who said that was fucking fired over it. Yeah it said he resigned, but when you get up enough you aren't "fired" you're "asked to resign"

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Oh no, you're reading that wrong. The aide resigned in protest to Rep. Moulton's comments. The article also quotes Rep. Tom Suozzi. Moulton is also in the House Equality Caucus, which is supposed to be protecting LGBTQ rights. I'm not sure how they square that with his comments that fundamentally misunderstand the process for transgender kids though. His comments show a fundamental misunderstanding of scholastic sports, human physiology, and hormone blockers. Which you think 2 of the 3 would be required reading for that caucus...

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 2 points 5 days ago

Ah yes the whole "They're sending what is basically a 27 year old Mr. T in a dress to play Volleyball against a 12 year old girl!" messaging

[–] treefrog@lemm.ee 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Well yeah they're strategists are essentially corporate lobbyists.

[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

"Poor me, my constitutes don't like that I am not representing them in government. Corporate lobbiest, you've done nothing but shower me in money, won't you tell me what Americans really want?"

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca -4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Regardless of what happens, the DNC will always say the answer is moving to the right.

This isn't borne out by trending or statements. What kind of crystal ball are you smoking?

Two examples: ran on being humane to migrants and continued title 42 three years into the Biden term and proposed a draconian new immigration law.

Ran on reforming the police, flooded them with money.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

The kind that's had me watching politics since Clinton... Have you been under a rock?