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Summary

In the 2024 election, Democrats excelled with highly engaged voters but lost ground with less-engaged voters, particularly younger, working-class, and non-college-educated individuals.

Vice President Kamala Harris won among voters who closely follow politics by 5 points but trailed Donald Trump by 14 points among less-engaged voters.

Democratic strategists highlighted failures in outreach, reliance on narrow data models, and ineffective messaging.

Critics noted the party’s brand is often defined by extreme voices, while Republicans capitalized on dissatisfaction with the economy and national direction, resonating with everyday frustrations.

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[–] dugmeup@lemmy.world 94 points 1 week ago (18 children)

Highly engaged voters are invested and take the time to understand policy and nuance. Generally this is not the case. All the others are just trying to get through the day. So you cannot win them over with policy and nuances.

You need to show big, bold initiative and follow through.

The Democratic party could not even prosecute a guy who tried to murder Congress. So the thinking goes - Why the fuck would someone vote for them when they do fuck all?

Hell if someone tried to murder you and you just gave up and went about your way, no one would trust you to do anything of substance. That is the problem with the Democratic party today.

[–] AmidFuror@fedia.io 29 points 1 week ago (7 children)

The Democratic party could not even prosecute a guy who tried to murder Congress. So the thinking goes - Why the fuck would someone vote for them when they do fuck all?

The "thinking" was instead to vote for the guy who tried to murder Congress?

The point of this article is that Trump was elected by those who did very little thinking at all.

[–] Soup@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago

They just didn’t vote at all, which is kinda the same thing but there’s nuance to it even still.

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[–] ReallyActuallyFrankenstein@lemmynsfw.com 3 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Hell if someone tried to murder you and you just gave up and went about your way, no one would trust you to do anything of substance. That is the problem with the Democratic party today.

I agree that the democrats needed a big bold message, but this is a strange metaphor. If someone tried to murder you and you just went about your way, people would... Vote for the murderer, I guess?

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 0 points 6 days ago

They did focus groups this past summer about at what point people would stop voting for Trump based on his felonies. The overwhelming answer was if he received a custodial sentence. The double delay signaled to voters that these felonies weren't actually that bad.

Similarly the non action on the Jan 6 case also signaled to voters that it wasn't a big deal. So they didn't feel like they were voting for the guy who tried to murder Congress.

[–] dugmeup@lemmy.world -1 points 6 days ago

That is how the godfather works.

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[–] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 week ago (2 children)

So you cannot win them over with policy and nuances.

There's no room for nuance, but you absolutely can win them over with policy, it just has to be policy that helps them get through the day. Everyone experiences the stress of not knowing how much your healthcare will cost, and getting hit with a massive bill anyway. "Free healthcare" instead of complicated subsidies for insurance that nobody really understands.

Progressive policy tend to win even in states where the dems ate shit..

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[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 86 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Surprise surprise. The ignorant fell for the party that excels in spreading misinformation, hate, and fear.

The real shocker here is we learned the ignorant account for the majority in America now.

Dark future.

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[–] Sundial@lemm.ee 38 points 1 week ago (1 children)

So Democrats won with people who were invested in keeping Trump away from Presidency and failed virtually every other demographic?

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yes, Democrats failed them. It's kinda their whole thing.

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[–] SleepyBear@lemmy.world 33 points 1 week ago (8 children)

How does a political party engage with those that ARE NOT WILLING to be engaged as voters. Its a losing situation that doesnt seem to be getting better. How do we get across to the braindead masses that their attention to policies will help them vote more effectively if they dont actually care to vote more effectively. Its fucking infuriating.

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[–] Weirdmusic@lemmy.world 29 points 1 week ago (1 children)

So, really, Trump won because people simply didn't bother to show up.

[–] MegaUltraChicken@lemmy.world 36 points 1 week ago (2 children)

This is how EVERY conservative wins.

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[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Dems need a PAC that mails out those scary postcards like Republicans do.

  • “Trump wants to deport you.”
  • “Trump wants higher prices”
  • “Trump wants you to pay more for private schooling.”

Etc. Etc.

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 week ago

I suppose they can start that now. But they don't have to brand Trump with it but the entire Republican party. Let the shit stain soil the Republicans, as aggressively as Biden was attacked.

Just everytime a stupid decision comes about, costing you more, send a postcard. "Hey, hope you like paying more, hope you like all your jobs leaving for China, hope you like hurricanes, droughts and severe weather, XOXO from your Republican friends".

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[–] simplejack@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

Basically democrats won the people that were actively paying attention, and conservatives one the people that were passively hearing about yet election.

[–] Eheran@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Even with those only 5 points ahead? Are you fucking kidding me? Is everyone stupid?

[–] darkdemize@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 week ago

Nah, there's plenty of bigots in there, too. Granted, there is significant overlap.

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[–] shani66@ani.social 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

"people able to look around and engage with reality vote against Trump"

[–] metaStatic@kbin.earth 4 points 1 week ago

People disliked when I just said this after the election and now it's just a fact.

dems didn't stay at home

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