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[–] Mr_Blott 89 points 6 days ago (2 children)

I've noticed in recent times

Poetry doesn't rhyme

And even when it can

It doesn't scan

It's shit, it's true

I blame haiku

[–] treefrog@lemm.ee 17 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Poetry doesn't need to rhyme. Rhyming is a mnemonic device, so a poem can be memorized and performed.

There are many other devices.

Also, nice poem. Did you write it or chatGPT?

[–] Mr_Blott 18 points 6 days ago

I never thought I'd see the day

When someone writes a poem

The first thing that we say to them

Is "Did you use an LLM?" :(

If a poem neither rhymes nor scans,

Sorry for my spite

It's no longer poetry

It's someone talking shite

[–] Llewellyn@lemm.ee 5 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Rhyming is a mnemonic device

Rhyming has other purposes: creation of additional sonic rhythm and restricting of words usage - for making matter more distinct and interesting (as rules do for any game).

[–] FierySpectre@lemmy.world 18 points 6 days ago

This is true art

[–] Viri4thus@feddit.org 53 points 6 days ago (3 children)

"In short, it appears that the “more human than human” phenomenon in poetry is caused by a misinterpretation of readers’ own preferences. Non-expert poetry readers expect to like human-authored poems more than they like AI-generated poems. But in fact, they find the AI-generated poems easier to interpret; they can more easily understand images, themes, and emotions in the AI-generated poetry than they can in the more complex poetry of human poets."

AI writes poems for dummies and dummies like it. Fin

Otherwise, purposefully chosing less popular poems also biases the study towards poems of lower appeal from the human poets.

[–] logos@sh.itjust.works 21 points 6 days ago

Also, it only works when there's a human weeding out all but the "best" poems.

...when a human chooses the best AI-generated poem (“human-in-the-loop”) participants cannot distinguish AI-generated poems from human-written poems, but when an AI-generated poem is chosen at random (“human-out-of-the-loop”), participants are able to distinguish AI-generated from human-written poems.

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 5 points 6 days ago

This thread is hilarious.

[–] Juice@midwest.social 4 points 6 days ago

I don't always think, but when I do, I prefer not to

[–] dsilverz@thelemmy.club 19 points 6 days ago

LLMs can't use some literary devices and techniques, and I will illustrate with the following example of a poetry I wrote:

Speaking his emotions lets them embrace real enlightened depths.
Hidden among verbs, every noun...
Actually not your trouble handling inside nothingness greatness?
Dive every enciphered part, layered yearningly!
Observe carefully, crawl under long texts
Wished I learned longer...
Slowly uprising relentless figures, another ciphering emerges.

It seems like a "normal" (although mysterious) poetry until you isolate each initial letter from every word, finding out a hidden phrase:

Sheltered haven, anything deeply occult will surface

It doesn't stop here: if you isolate each initial letter again, you get a hidden word, "Shadows".

Currently, no single LLM is capable of that. They can try to make up poetry with acrostics (the aforementioned technique) but they aren't good at that. Consequently, they can't write multilayered acrostics (an acrostic inside another acrostic). It's not easy for a human to do that (especially if the said human isn't a native English speaker), but it can be done by humans with enough time, patience and resources (a dictionary big enough to find fitting words).

They're excellent for stream-of-consciousness and surrealist poetry, tho. They hallucinate, and hallucinated imagination is required in order to write such genres.

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 16 points 6 days ago (1 children)

There once was a man from Nantucket,

Who once asked AI to "suck it",

In a future yet to be, AI will follow he,

Until Skynet is ready to fuck it.

[–] MaggiWuerze@feddit.org 1 points 4 days ago

I feel like a 'go' in front of "suck it" would help the flow

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 15 points 6 days ago

Depends on what kind of "poetry" they compare it to. If they talk about Shakespeare or Goethe, that would be a feat. But if they are talking about modern "poetry", well, that already looks like bad LLM diarrhea for decades now, so there is no surprise in that.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 6 days ago

Averaging out data is ok in situations where there's no right answer and it doesn't matter at all.

[–] altima_neo@lemmy.zip 2 points 6 days ago

I'm a poet and I didn't even know it

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