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[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 56 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (7 children)

Can we not use Fox News, please? They legally argued in court they are strictly entertainment and no reasonable person would believe them. In other words, they are literal propaganda.

But yeah, I hope the smug voters that sat this election out are happy...

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[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 129 points 6 days ago (47 children)

Thanks, Uncommitted Assholes.

[–] capt_wolf@lemmy.world 72 points 6 days ago (20 children)

I loved having people arguing with me and saying "At least my conscience is clear."

How's your conscience now??? Still feeling good about your decision?

[–] ech@lemm.ee 38 points 6 days ago (2 children)

They think they get to wipe their hands of it because they "didn't participate", refusing to concede that said choice still counts as their participation. Through ignorance, cruelty, and/or privilege, they'll blame everyone else for the state of the world while refusing to do their part.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 20 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Howard Zinn - you can't be neutral on a moving train. The Enlightened Centrists (TM) always look like suuuuuch dipshits when they talk about "both sides".

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[–] neanderthal@lemmy.world 104 points 6 days ago (42 children)

Well, to all the folks arguing with me on how voting for Harris was bad because of Gaza: CONGRATULATIONS! You REALLY made a point there. The Palestinians had a chance under Harris. Instead of voting for a chance for the Palestinians, you did nothing or voted for genocide. You did it from the other side of the world, where you won't have to suffer the consequences.

[–] Kraiden@kbin.earth 75 points 6 days ago (11 children)

"A vOTe fOR hARriS iS a VoTE FoR gENociDe"

Fucking morons

[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 28 points 6 days ago

Fucking Russians. Fixed it for you.

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[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 40 points 6 days ago (15 children)

Where my “Democrats are evil genocide people” posters now?

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 19 points 6 days ago

Right here. Republicans being worse doesn't excuse selling weapons for an ongoing genocide. Democrats never should have done that. And it got you nothing. You supported genocide for nothing.

I think a lot of the hostility here is because centrists are mad that trump is going to be able to take credit for the complete implementation of their only policy.

[–] skozzii@lemmy.ca 17 points 6 days ago (6 children)

Russians don't need to make them anymore.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 15 points 6 days ago

Democrats should never have supported genocide. Am I a Russian?

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[–] Krono@lemmy.today 15 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I'm right here. Democrats are still evil for supporting a genocide, and your "lesser of two evils" logic continues to make us more evil.

What do you think of the 30 days the Democrats gave Israel to improve the humanitarian situation by measurable metrics? Israel failed every metric, but the Democratic administration ignores the results and continues to ship weapons to the genocidal regime.

What do you think of the dozens of international doctors who have been to Gaza saying they saw children with single gunshot wounds to the head almost everyday? Reports are widespread that israeli snipers are intentionally killing 100s of children each month.

What do think of Israels recent use of small arms drones? After an American/Israeli bomb destroys a civilian building, a dozen small drones swarm the area. These drones fire small cube-shaped projectiles with the force to pierce skin and break bones, using AI to target any human in the designated area. They are deadly accurate and fast, firing 3 at the head, 3 at the chest, and 3 at the groin. Doctors say these projectiles are especially hard to fish out of the bodies of the child victims as they rarely exit the body, instead they bounce around causing more internal damage.

Suggesting that the people upset about an ongoing genocide are just going to forget about it due to electoral politics is disgusting, and you should feel ashamed.

[–] SulaymanF@lemmy.world 12 points 5 days ago

Hear hear.

People ignore that Biden’s policy was simply indefensible. He fought his own party, he fought his advisors and the media and he STILL lost the election. There’s no longer a need to carry water for him.

[–] orcrist@lemm.ee 12 points 5 days ago

Are you asking if we still think Biden and Harris are complicit in the ongoing genocide? Yeah, yeah we do. Shit is bad right now, long before Trump takes office.

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[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 17 points 5 days ago (2 children)

The Democrats aren't in power anymore, Palestine is saved! /s

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[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 26 points 5 days ago (6 children)
[–] Kbobabob@lemmy.world 19 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (3 children)

Currently, U.S. restrictions include an embargo on a certain weapons shipment and limitations on various combat-related equipment,

Read the article?

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[–] raynethackery@lemmy.world 26 points 5 days ago (8 children)

I know this is a disgusting thought but, assuming there are ever free elections in the United States again, Gaza won't be an issue in 2028. Palestine will just be a memory.

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[–] just_an_average_joe@lemmy.dbzer0.com 32 points 6 days ago (14 children)

Why are americans so fuckin dumb? Instead of pointing their fingers at millions of trump voters, they are pointing it at people with empathy for having anti-genocider stance.

It feels like they are just interested in finding a scapegoat to blame rather than asking the real questions, why did so many people voted for trump? Did kamala, despite having more funding, failed to convey her plan? What happened and why it happened and how can it be avoided?

[–] SulaymanF@lemmy.world 13 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

They’re angry and looking for an easy scapegoat. Even though it’s obviously the wrong one. We all knew Trump was worse, which is why Mehdi Hasan and many others were pleading with Biden to please change course because he was destroying his re-election by his own hand. Biden overruled his advisors and the state department and pressed forward on an unpopular policy in hopes he could get republicans to vote for him and it failed. He undermined his own foreign policy and ruined his own career.

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[–] adarza@lemmy.ca 67 points 6 days ago (2 children)

giving putin a free pass at ukraine will be after lunch, then?

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[–] Etterra@lemmy.world 43 points 6 days ago (22 children)

Boy those pro-Palestine folks that didn't vote for Kamala to protest her stance on the genocide sure did own the Democrats. I'm sure they're super happy about helping get Trump back in office and aren't at all upset about the leopards gnawing off their entire heads.

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[–] Bookmeat@lemmy.world 54 points 6 days ago (12 children)

Let's be real. The Zionists in charge are Nazis and there was never a path out of genocide in these elections.

[–] SquatDingloid@lemmy.world 37 points 6 days ago (2 children)

It's also part of the evangelical grifter prophecy that the Jews be in control of all of old Isreal before the apocalypse starts.

Trump will dismantle this country and the Christians will cheer it on as society circles the drain because the version of their book that was rewritten in the 70s says so.

It will at least be funny to see them all realize that the "rapture" probably already happened and they're all still here XD

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[–] Poxydogs@sopuli.xyz 12 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Despite what Biden said, there never were any restrictions. Israel gave basically had a free for all since the beginning. White phosphorus was used right at the beginning and no consequences happened. They bombed hospital and nothing happened. They killed aid workers and nothing happened. Unless trump sends American troops in then nothing changes, Israel is going to do what it was always going to do.

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[–] 2ugly2live@lemmy.world 29 points 6 days ago (12 children)

Did anyone tell the Palestinians that this would have been the same and to not worry? We had brave, brave people who sat on their hands and did nothing in their name, so I hope they're grateful for their "sacrifice."

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[–] Vespair@lemm.ee 4 points 4 days ago

Comments deleted by moderator: who the fuck are we moderating for? This isn't reddit where we have to mind our Ps and Qs to make a bunch of advertisers happy. Why the fuck are we still moderating like we're beholden to advertiser-friendliness?

[–] jumperalex@lemmy.world 28 points 6 days ago (8 children)

Time for the 2nd stage of FAaFO for all those that fucked around.

No both sides were not equally bad choices for trying to stop the slaughter of non-combatants.

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