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It feels all but certain that I won't be able to enjoy a prosperous life or get to retire. All of the wealth is going straight to the top. All of the opportunities to move up in the world are being rug-pulled. All of the federal agencies that help keep us safe and healthy are gone. The social safety net is getting flushed down the toilet. We will live in disease and squalor, and the most vulnerable of us will die.

Because I dared to not be a sociopath, I and anyone else who voted for sanity will be deemed enemies of the state and hunted down - which won't be hard, because it would be trivial to build the most robust surveillance state in human history if it doesn't exist already.

I myself have disabilities (which I don't think qualify for benefits) that make it hard, but not impossible, to find a job. The problem is that I just can't bring myself to do it because I don't get what the fucking point is anymore. I have to work so hard to get out of this rut just for some fascist fuck to kill me or toss me into a torture facility before I can even experience life on my own.

Have you been in a similar headspace and were able to escape it? If so, what snapped you out of it?

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[–] dan1101@lemm.ee 9 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

I work to have money for shelter and food and, just as importantly, some spending money for hobbies and travel. The freedom to be able to drive basically anywhere any time is a great thing to have.

The inequalities today are large but also the standard of living for even the lower class is probably higher than any other time in history. You can go your entire life without holding a shovel or hammer or piece of firewood Imagine instead having to build your own house, grow your own food, and cut firewood to stay warm. Things aren't so bad.

[–] AbsoluteChicagoDog@lemm.ee 7 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I have no answer for you. Really, there is no point. Hopefully enough people give up on the system that it crashes and we can start over.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago (3 children)

If everybody gives up on the system we fought to build with protections for workers and public goods everyone can use, then starting over will just cause more death and suffering.

[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 6 days ago (2 children)

People love to romanticize accelerationism until the civil war start and they begin starving.

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[–] zephorah@lemm.ee 8 points 6 days ago (1 children)

If you can swing the training, even at the CNA or EMT level, there is healthcare. Purposeful work. Knowledge that helps your daily, and is never entirely useless. If nothing else it will save you from spurious trips to the urgent care or emergency room, or tell you when to use the urgent care instead of the emergency room, and save you money there. Even before ACA there were shortages. There’s potential here for fallout as with everything else, but if hospitals can retain nonprofit status I don’t see much changing in terms of need.

For now anyway, until nonprofit status/benefits get yanked, hospitals pay part of education upgrades. They typically offer better health insurance too, if you stay in their corporate system and don’t have kids.

I’m sure there’s other purposeful professions that don’t have an impossible buyin.

I usually recommend trades. Building something with your hands, again with a skill set that carries over into your household, has purpose. But with immigration policy, a sizeable piece of the grunt work force may be kicked out, so I’m not sure what will happen there but I suspect house building will slow down.

This is why im in the field im in. My labor goes directly to people who need it. Its still a scam and im still taken advantage of monetarialy but I come into work and do things directly for people who need them.

[–] ohlaph@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago

It's not easy. What I found helpful is if you can separate work and personal life. Only work for money unless you start your own business.

Separating the two allows you not to care if the business does poorly, it allows you to not feel guilty when your boss fails or the business does poorly, or needs extra help but you have a date that night.

I was laid off in September from a company, started a new company on Monday, they announced layoffs on Tuesday, and found out Wednesday my job is safe. Suffice to say, companies don't care about you so get in, cash out.

[–] GhiLA@sh.itjust.works 6 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Get a pet.

There. Now go to work or it dies.

Consider this practice for children.

[–] Kit@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 6 days ago

Counterpoint: Don't have children

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 3 points 6 days ago

Getting depends for which you got neither money or time is abuse.

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Consider this practice for children

Did you ask your unborn children if they wanted to be a wage slave and pay rent their whole lives first?

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[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 4 points 6 days ago

Psychedelics

[–] Acamon@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago (2 children)

I get the sense from your wording that you might be in the younger end of the spectrum. Although the world can feel pretty shitty and messed up, it's often worth remembering "this too shall pass". Obviously no one wants the world to be awful, and living through hard times isn't desirable, but just like the good stuff never lasts, the bad stuff changes too. The Great Depression lasted a decade, the Nazis ran Germany for just a bit longer.

Those were presumably fucking dreadful times to live through. But the decades that followed were comparatively prosperous for the countries. What's happening in the US is depressing as all hell, but it'll change, and all you can do is the best you can to make it less dreadful, for yourself and the people around you.

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[–] olafurp@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago

I mean, work is always a shit deal, trading life for money but you need money for life also including retirement which is a lot less guaranteed for millenials and younger.

I'd recommend learning a trade like electrician or plumbing. You get fat stacks and control your own time. It takes a bit of time to learn but the work you do will never be a scam since it's you working for an average person and yourself.

[–] jeena@piefed.jeena.net 3 points 6 days ago

What is the alternative?

[–] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 4 points 6 days ago

I feel the same. I found a way to leave the country. Will be leaving in the new year. I have kids and I can't have them growing up here anymore. Time to try something new.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 3 points 6 days ago

My thinking is if I don't even make enough to not have to live in the streets/in my car while also working 40-60 hours a week, then it's simply not worth the stress. If I'm gonna be homeless whether I have a job or not, might as well stay unemployed.

[–] kameecoding@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago

I used to be in a bad space, getting off the internet more and living life more helps a lot, I am not trying to dismiss your concerns, but I think you will find the real world to be much less extreme than what's on the internet.

I mostly stopped following politics, the amount of injustice make me angry and unable to function, but I came to the realization that I am not the kind of person who is going to devote his quite literally limited time on earth to trying to fix other people's stupidity, I go out and vote in elections, then I live my life, that's it.

Being online and reading people bitching about stuff and saying how bad it's gonna be doesn't really get you anywhere only into a bad space mentally, so why read it? I have curated a homepage on lemmy thats almost completely politics free, what's politics is mostly satire to make me laugh, I feel better, and I focus on being a better me.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 4 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Capitalist Wage-Labor is a scam. Surplus value comes from labor. Labor is a commodity just like anything else on the market, but the price of labor itself is tied to general subsistence plus replacement, it isn't tied to how much value is created. Differences in wages come from various factors but regulate around cost to replace, ie training requires a lot of time, so this is represented by higher wages.

Instead, we should be advocating for public ownership, so that the people get the spoils of their labor, and can pay into a general fund of sorts to provide safety nets, infrastructure, and more that don't rely on the profit motive. In other words, we should transition to Socialism.

I recommend you read theory. I wrote an introductory reading list for Marxism if that appeals to you or anyone else.

[–] resonate6279@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

If you don't mind me asking, what are your disabilities?

What do you enjoy?

What education do you have?

What state/general region do you live in?

If you're willing to answer some/all ofthose, I can start providing some more specific answers than you've gotten.

Biggest thing though is going to be to realize that you are likely still able to provide for yourself well, no matter who is president. And, hyperbole is not super healthy to internalize.

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