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Bluesky managed to go offline practically entirely. I count on you folks to spork the hell out of this.

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[–] itsgroundhogdayagain@lemmy.ml 131 points 2 months ago (6 children)

Sorry, Lemmy.world and Lemmy.ml were down for maintenance again. You were saying?

[–] VerPoilu@sopuli.xyz 82 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Well, this user has posted on feddit.uk with a sh.itjust.works account. I would have been able to see it, but you wouldn't have.

To be honest, lemmy.world AND lemmy.ml could go offline I would barely notice it.

[–] SARGE@startrek.website 45 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I think I would mainly notice because my whole feed would be wholesome, supportive, and funny.

[–] steal_your_face@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 months ago

Fuck you

^/s^

[–] gregor@gregtech.eu 4 points 2 months ago

Lemmy.world is fine, as for lemmy.ml...

[–] Letstakealook@lemm.ee 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I have them both blocked, so yeah, they aren't that important at all.

[–] PrettyFlyForAFatGuy 6 points 2 months ago (2 children)

i can understand blocking .ml, whats wrong with .world though?

[–] Letstakealook@lemm.ee 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (6 children)

They have "power users" that mod multiples of the largest communities and will delete comments of they disagree with your opinion, citing "civility" or other nonsense, even when you're repeating back exactly what was said to you. So, yeah, abusive moderation.

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[–] Noel_Skum@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Purely anecdotal but… the 3 stupidest people I’ve ever met online were all from .world - and there seems to be a propensity for deleting comments that go against their world view. Only knowingly interacted with one .ml poster and they were perfectly decent.

[–] FlihpFlorp@lemm.ee 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Look at this social butterfly who’s interacted with 3 people

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[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 42 points 2 months ago (2 children)

And the fact that I had no idea kinda disproves your point. I am browsing Lemmy a lot.

[–] Voltage@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 2 months ago (4 children)

The joke is that most of lemmycels are on lemmy.world and lemmy.ml. Not that these instances literally went down.

[–] GoodEye8@lemm.ee 15 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Because most of the communities are on those 2 instances. In terms of userbase world does have the most users, but they're the exception as other "big" instances are more evenly split.

So instead of a single instance going down we have 2 main instances that need to go down, and even if they go down we'd have lemmee, shitjustworks, lemmyca and blahaj (and I guess also lemmynsfw) communities feeding the feed.

[–] ghen@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I could absolutely cruise games and memes on shit just works for a day if other instances are down

[–] gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

(and db0 for the fun stuff, gosh)

[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 5 points 2 months ago

Lemm.ee represent

[–] Voltage@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 months ago

I agree, having multiple main instance is better than what we had. Also thank you for reminding me lemmynsfw, time for donating.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago (10 children)

No idea what a lemmycel is or what that would have to do with bluesky

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[–] Walk_blesseD@lemmy.blahaj.zone 35 points 2 months ago

Can they do it again please?

[–] TheMightyCanuck@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 months ago

Shit doesn't work

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[–] MimicJar@lemmy.world 63 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Based on https://www.theverge.com/2024/11/14/24296537/bluesky-acting-up-outage-down it was down for 15-30 minutes and for some it was just read-only.

Lemmy instances regularly go down for maintenance longer than this.

Twitter used to regularly "fail whale" and in the long run no one cares.

Yes, decentralizing is a good thing. Yes, it's fun to poke at BlueSky. But in the long run if you have a product that people want to use then they'll put up with a lot of crap/downtime.

[–] kattfisk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 2 months ago (5 children)

The point is that bluesky has no interest in being actually decentralized, it's just a gimmick

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[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 46 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (18 children)

Eh, I feel like the important part of decentralization right now is the potential to migrate.

Like, how many social media sites actually last 5 years before shitting the bed?

If admins of an instance get shitty, it's trivial to move to a new one. Traditional social media you'd have to migrate to a completely different site, with different features, layout, and other stuff.

People won't all wait for the same reason, as the biggest becomes actually "big" we'll see them start to fracture.

There just wasn't enough people on fediverse to start out like that.

So think of Blue sky, World, and all those other "big" instances that still don't have that many users as the egg for the future fediverse that actually has enough users to be proper decentralized

[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 10 points 2 months ago

at least when an AP instance goes titsup people can hop on another instance. thats not currently possible with bluesky. to me that puts AP a step above AT

[–] Jozav@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (6 children)

Is migrating really practical? Will your followers automatically follow you on your new server?

[–] poVoq@slrpnk.net 18 points 2 months ago (1 children)

On Mastodon yes, it is also compatible with a few other software like Akkoma. Your followers will get a notification that you moved and will automatically follow the new account. Works very seamlessly in my experience.

[–] Jozav@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

Thanks a lot, very helpful

[–] RandomStickman@fedia.io 9 points 2 months ago

On Mastodon it's very easy and it brings your followers over

[–] Reddfugee42@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

It offers possibilities, which are infinitely more probable than systems without such possibilities.

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[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

At this point, anything that hurts Twitter is good. Bluesky may go down in two years, but if twitter dies in one, I'll be happy. People need to learn to jump platforms again.

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[–] capital@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

It's more like """federated""".

[–] RandomVideos@programming.dev 4 points 2 months ago

Assuming people dont make multiple accounts and each server goes offline for maintenance for the same time, wouldnt both one server and multiple servers act the same for the user?

[–] mm_maybe@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 months ago (2 children)

also incredibly easy for the federal government to take them out

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[–] scott@authorship.studio 3 points 2 months ago

The interesting thing is that Bluesky might become federated because of bridges to the fediverse. You would be able to federate with Bluesky with a fediverse server.

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