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Bluesky managed to go offline practically entirely. I count on you folks to spork the hell out of this.

See also here.

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[–] itsgroundhogdayagain@lemmy.ml 131 points 6 days ago (6 children)

Sorry, Lemmy.world and Lemmy.ml were down for maintenance again. You were saying?

[–] VerPoilu@sopuli.xyz 80 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Well, this user has posted on feddit.uk with a sh.itjust.works account. I would have been able to see it, but you wouldn't have.

To be honest, lemmy.world AND lemmy.ml could go offline I would barely notice it.

[–] SARGE@startrek.website 44 points 6 days ago (2 children)

I think I would mainly notice because my whole feed would be wholesome, supportive, and funny.

[–] steal_your_face@lemmy.ml 5 points 5 days ago

Fuck you

^/s^

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[–] Letstakealook@lemm.ee 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I have them both blocked, so yeah, they aren't that important at all.

[–] PrettyFlyForAFatGuy 6 points 6 days ago (7 children)

i can understand blocking .ml, whats wrong with .world though?

[–] Letstakealook@lemm.ee 8 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (6 children)

They have "power users" that mod multiples of the largest communities and will delete comments of they disagree with your opinion, citing "civility" or other nonsense, even when you're repeating back exactly what was said to you. So, yeah, abusive moderation.

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[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 42 points 6 days ago (2 children)

And the fact that I had no idea kinda disproves your point. I am browsing Lemmy a lot.

[–] Voltage@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 6 days ago (4 children)

The joke is that most of lemmycels are on lemmy.world and lemmy.ml. Not that these instances literally went down.

[–] GoodEye8@lemm.ee 15 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Because most of the communities are on those 2 instances. In terms of userbase world does have the most users, but they're the exception as other "big" instances are more evenly split.

So instead of a single instance going down we have 2 main instances that need to go down, and even if they go down we'd have lemmee, shitjustworks, lemmyca and blahaj (and I guess also lemmynsfw) communities feeding the feed.

[–] gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 5 days ago (1 children)

(and db0 for the fun stuff, gosh)

[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 5 points 5 days ago

Lemm.ee represent

[–] ghen@sh.itjust.works 6 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

I could absolutely cruise games and memes on shit just works for a day if other instances are down

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[–] ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

lemmycels

🤢🤮

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago (10 children)

No idea what a lemmycel is or what that would have to do with bluesky

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[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago

And here I have a lemmy.world account because I'm not sure my own instance is that solid 🤕😥

[–] Walk_blesseD@lemmy.blahaj.zone 35 points 6 days ago

Can they do it again please?

Shit doesn't work

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[–] MimicJar@lemmy.world 61 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Based on https://www.theverge.com/2024/11/14/24296537/bluesky-acting-up-outage-down it was down for 15-30 minutes and for some it was just read-only.

Lemmy instances regularly go down for maintenance longer than this.

Twitter used to regularly "fail whale" and in the long run no one cares.

Yes, decentralizing is a good thing. Yes, it's fun to poke at BlueSky. But in the long run if you have a product that people want to use then they'll put up with a lot of crap/downtime.

[–] kattfisk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 6 days ago (5 children)

The point is that bluesky has no interest in being actually decentralized, it's just a gimmick

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[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago (1 children)

At this point, anything that hurts Twitter is good. Bluesky may go down in two years, but if twitter dies in one, I'll be happy. People need to learn to jump platforms again.

[–] Pilferjinx@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

Yeah, competition, even if a little, is still good.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 46 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (25 children)

Eh, I feel like the important part of decentralization right now is the potential to migrate.

Like, how many social media sites actually last 5 years before shitting the bed?

If admins of an instance get shitty, it's trivial to move to a new one. Traditional social media you'd have to migrate to a completely different site, with different features, layout, and other stuff.

People won't all wait for the same reason, as the biggest becomes actually "big" we'll see them start to fracture.

There just wasn't enough people on fediverse to start out like that.

So think of Blue sky, World, and all those other "big" instances that still don't have that many users as the egg for the future fediverse that actually has enough users to be proper decentralized

at least when an AP instance goes titsup people can hop on another instance. thats not currently possible with bluesky. to me that puts AP a step above AT

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[–] Backlog3231@reddthat.com 9 points 5 days ago (2 children)

bluesky is more federated than threads, but less federated than mastodon. As I understand it, you can more or less host your own bluesky "instance". Though it is difficult to do and some parts you have to build yourself, it is technically doable. This is not the case on threads, I believe.

[–] Emperor 2 points 4 days ago

Except Threads is on ActivityPub so is an instance in the Fediverse.

I've recently read about that myself. But hosting anything Bluesky-related yourself is horrendously expensive because you need absolute monster servers with terabytes of disc space. Not to mention Bluesky's convoluted architecture.

[–] BananaTrifleViolin 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

In fairness they're still rolling out their federation.

Individuals can host their own servers with limited users (10 I think?). The Guardian seems to have launched one judging by their new account @theguadian.com launched today.

And they're using an open prptocol, with a promise to transfer it to an independent standards body in the near future. Also Jack Dorsey no longer has anything to do with it which is another good sign.

[–] Turret3857@infosec.pub 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Can I have the documentation? I believe you I just haven't found it myself (I'm bad at looking things up)

I'd be interested in self hosting my own Bluesky server if this is the case, maybe I could bridge it to my Misskey Server

[–] scott@authorship.studio 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

@Turret3857 I don't have any documentation, but I do know that Friendica (which is a multi-protocol platform) created a Bluesky addon. Maybe their code might be a good example. #^https://github.com/friendica/friendica-addons/tree/develop/bluesky

Also, Bridgy Fed can be used by any ActivityPub-based platform to connect to Bluesky. That can work in the meantime until direct integration with AT Protocol is developed.

[–] Turret3857@infosec.pub 1 points 1 day ago

Thanks for the links!! Looking into them now :D

[–] Mycatiskai@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I have a question.

My partner has made an account on Bluesky because her favorite weather person got banned from Facebook but they made a Bluesky account.

I don't go on that kind of site, but I saw this post here. So my question is should she join some other instance of Bluesky that isn't Bsk.social so it won't crash?

Even if it is short crashes, I want her to have a good experience with decentralized networks and not go back to Xshitter.

[–] Emperor 1 points 4 days ago

So my question is should she join some other instance of Bluesky that isn’t Bsk.social so it won’t crash?

There aren't any, hence the meme.

I want her to have a good experience with decentralized networks

It is only notionally decentralised, she should just consider it as Xitter without the people actively trying to burn the world down with us still on it.

See also: Bluesky's fedi-washing and some context for that.

On the upside, it was fairly brief while they did an update, which is what all websites have to do from time to time, including a lot of Lemmy instances with the new version out. So it shouldn't spoil her user experience.

[–] scott@authorship.studio 3 points 5 days ago

The interesting thing is that Bluesky might become federated because of bridges to the fediverse. You would be able to federate with Bluesky with a fediverse server.

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