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  • Hyundai is slowly backing away from the all-screen approach to interior design.
  • Hyundai Design North America Vice President Ha Hak-soo said that people "get stressed, annoyed and steamed when they want to control something in a pinch but are unable to do so."
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[–] pewgar_seemsimandroid@lemmy.blahaj.zone 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)

a screen is good for navigation and music, basically it

[–] jayandp@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 day ago

Pretty much. Give me a screen for Android Auto so I can interact with my preferred navigation and media apps, and then just let me control the car.

Like, if you want to add a menu for low-level tweaking of stuff I don't need(or shouldn't change) while driving, sure(like suspension settings). But for everything else, AC, seat warmers, forward/reverse, windshield wipers, headlights, etc, I want a button or knob.

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 72 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Congratulations on taking a fucking DECADE to realize what should've been FUCKING OBVIOUS from the start.

[–] And009@reddthat.com 3 points 1 day ago

Design is science, they fail and go back. Doing the same thing over and over again hoping for a different outcome is the definition of insanity.. Oh wait.

"Annoying", "serious safety hazard", safe difference, right?

[–] doktormerlin@feddit.org 8 points 1 day ago

I just got a new Hyundai and I think they already have the perfect amount of touch vs buttons. Everything you need to access has buttons, the things which would be too annoying to do during the drive are touch

[–] Godort@lemm.ee 293 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Good. This should be forced via regulations. Touchscreen controls are provably more dangerous than buttons due to the distraction.

[–] simplejack@lemmy.world 55 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I’m sure Trump and his new auto industry advisor, Elon Musk, will get right on that. 😔

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[–] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 72 points 2 days ago (7 children)

Haptic feedback like knob clicks or button presses are much easier to use without taking eyes off the road as often.

[–] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 110 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Shhh, don't call it "haptic feedback" or they might make them flat, unmoving buttons that have a vibration motor behind them.

[–] krashmo@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They already have started doing that

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[–] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 51 points 1 day ago (1 children)

More importantly, they are dangerous.

[–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 41 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I just put on full self driving while I mess with the touchscreen. I've only hit 4 toddlers max in the last couple weeks.

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 24 points 1 day ago

Ah, the mythical Democrat 4th trimester abortion.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 26 points 1 day ago

Absolutely my creed. In my industrial niche, touch screen never took hold - when your action is actually (or at least perceived) important, nobody wants to rely on touch screens.

[–] Toes@ani.social 34 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Not having touch anything is a selling point for me. Bonus points if I can roll up the window too.

[–] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 39 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Personally I prefer a mixture of both. Touch screen for anything you don't need to operate while driving and physical for everything else.

Android Auto navigation, car system/audio settings, clock and system management, etc should all be a touch screen so you aren't navigating through turning knobs and pressing up and down buttons to go through various menus like your programming a microwave.

Knobs and dials and buttons for anything to do with audio volume, skip/reverse tracks, etc. and air conditioning.

[–] ShepherdPie@midwest.social 28 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Automakers will read this comment and think that everyone wants voice control instead of touchscreens or buttons.

[–] BigDanishGuy@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 day ago

Just to be completely clear then (and I'm sorry for yelling):

WE DON'T WANT VOICE CONTROL IN OUR CARS. AND IF YOU ADD AI WE'LL BURN YOU TO THE FUCKING GROUND.

[–] ziggurat@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

Please unlock the door

Voice can not be authenticated please run calibration in the phone app

Open the door

Voice can not be authenticated please run calibration in the phone app

Ooopen theeee dooooor

Voice can not be authenticated please run calibration in the phone app

Unlock the door

Turning on cabin warmer

The door unlock it

Voice can not be authenticated please run calibration in the phone app

Open the door!

Voice can not be authenticated please run calibration in the phone app

[–] dandu3@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Voice can‽

Oh god, not this again....

PLEASE DRINK VOICEIFICATION CAN

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[–] pinkystew@reddthat.com 43 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The bathrooms in hell all have automatic sinks where you can't tell where the sensor is and an inconsistent delay.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago

Also the faucet hole is 1 centimeter from the back edge of the sink.

[–] zeppo@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I was in an airport bathroom and somehow the auto soap dispenser managed to squirt soap into my open cup of coffee. Fuck those things.

[–] atrielienz@lemmy.world 31 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I have questions about why you'd take an open cup of coffee into a public bathroom.

[–] ShepherdPie@midwest.social 27 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Because the people at the coffee stand complained when I tried taking a shit there.

[–] BigDanishGuy@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 day ago

Tbf they only complain about the removing your pants part. Keep your pants up, and you can take a shit there before they complain about the smell.

[–] zeppo@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

It was one of those one person family bathrooms. I had a 3 hour wait and a bottle of rum.

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[–] TseseJuer@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (2 children)

this is disgusting I'd rather have soap in my coffee then take an open cup into the bathroom. I'd say that the dispenser is justified in its actions

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[–] zipzoopaboop@lemmynsfw.com 36 points 1 day ago (2 children)

They aren't just annoying, they're dangerous and can't be operated without looking at them

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[–] Th4tGuyII@fedia.io 71 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Honestly. I'd be fine with a touchscreen for things you wouldn't likely be adjusting on the go anyways - but basic stuff like the radio and AC/Fans should always be easy to distinguish, don't need to look away from the road to operate buttons. Making basic stuff require touchscreen is inconvenient at best and outright dangerous at worst.

[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Give me a manageable handful of physical buttons with defaults but that I can customize. The pendulum swung too far. There is a Place for touch screens and buttons in cars. They can live in Harmony. Personally, I never want to see a climate control physical button except maybe for my passengers microclimates. I set a setpoint and set the fan to auto like I do in my house. Let the car adjust to the preferred setpoint. Heated seats / heated steering wheel? Programmed parameters. Stereo controls? Hell yeah, let's get tactile - don't make me look at anything for that. I don't mind the idea of voice controls too, but I've never met one in a car that wasn't frustrating AF. Prefer to leave that out until the tech improves.

[–] smeenz@lemmy.nz 21 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (5 children)

Conversely, I want the ac controls on physical buttons because when I'm in driving and am in direct sunlight, or when I've just jumped in the car after doing some heavy work, I want ice cold Antarctic air blowing on my face. The ambient temperature of the general cabin is irrelevant to me. I do not want to be hunting around through menus to find the ac fan control slider.

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[–] ShepherdPie@midwest.social 8 points 1 day ago

My wife's Ford Edge has the worst of both worlds. It has buttons for the stereo and AC but they're all flat capacitive buttons so they barely work when you touch them and you still have to take your eyes off the road to find them.

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[–] alekwithak@lemmy.world 60 points 2 days ago

First good news I've heard in a while.

[–] TheAlbatross@lemmy.blahaj.zone 53 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Goddamn right!!

The only thing I need on a screen is the GPS, everything else is an annoyance.

[–] jabathekek@sopuli.xyz 24 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (11 children)

Personally I don't even need that, just give me aux and usb ports for my phone. It'll be multitudes better than whatever hardware they use for the "infotainment" system.

[–] ThePantser@lemmy.world 31 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I would rather have just a dumb display with an open standard that will mirror my phone and send touches back. Android auto is great but it's a proprietary protocol that support could be dropped at any time. Same with apple. Everything that is not infotainment should be physical buttons so if I want to swap out my display for something else it won't neuter my hvac

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[–] leadore@lemmy.world 28 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

I have a pre-touchscreen era (for its model anyway) 2012 car. I'm hoping by the time I have to get a new car this touchscreen fad will have come and gone. How are you supposed to use those things in the winter when you have gloves on?

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[–] BlackLaZoR@fedia.io 33 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Hyundai Design North America Vice President Ha Hak-soo said that people "get stressed, annoyed and steamed when they want to control something in a pinch but are unable to do so."

How many years it took them to figure it out?

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