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Summary

Following Donald Trump’s recent election victory, Google searches for “4B,” a South Korean feminist movement advocating a “no sex, no dating, no marriage, no children” stance, surged in the U.S.

The 4B movement, popular among young women on social media, promotes individual resistance against conservative politics and the erosion of reproductive rights.

The trend reflects a broader ideological divide between young men and women in the U.S., where women under 30 are significantly more liberal than men.

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[–] ShadowRam@fedia.io 52 points 3 days ago (3 children)

But the large swatch of incel's that voted for Trump aren't going to be affect by this.

[–] whithom@discuss.online 22 points 3 days ago (3 children)

They will just be able to further blame women. I’m all for that shit-show though. 🍿

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[–] Bluefalcon@discuss.tchncs.de 48 points 3 days ago (20 children)

Guys always ask me how to meet women. I say, " It's easy, be polite and learn how to communicate." None of them succeed.

[–] HeyJoe@lemmy.world 18 points 3 days ago (5 children)

Not really... from personal experience, I couldn't find a single woman to date or show interest until I was 25. I was and still am super nice and polite, apparently too much for most.

I fully believe I am just ugly, and it is what it is. After being rejected for so long and never having the chance to have those experiences growing up, it did leave me in a bad place for a while.

Good news is I did meet someone at 25 and we're married now over 10 years and have 2 kids. This was also right before the rise of dating apps, which I wonder what impact they would have had if given the chance to use them.

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[–] Tygr@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

They haven’t figured out that Conservatives see this as a huge win? No liberal babies…

[–] venusaur@lemmy.world 41 points 3 days ago (5 children)

Women will continue to demand better for themselves and some men will continue to get more radicalized in retaliation until we start raising boys to be empathetic and not sexualizing them so they feel entitled to people’s bodies.

[–] PunnyName@lemmy.world 23 points 3 days ago (5 children)

Consent and boundaries need to be learned at an early age.
Understanding the emotions of others, and not being at the center of every interaction.
Understanding individual bodily autonomy, and extension of that to others.

These all need to be passed on in early life, because they are foundational to ensuring better overall social interactions with the opposite sex, knowing the worth of oneself and others, and being respectful to everyone including oneself.

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[–] earth_walker@lemmy.world 39 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (3 children)

It's a person's decision whether to have sex, get married or date someone. They don't need to justify that to anyone. No one criticizes men for choosing celibacy or choosing to remain single. But women don't have that priviledge, so they have to justify themselves and still they will recieve criticism and hate from men just for choosing to exercise their personal freedom and live their life according to their values.

No one criticizes men for choosing celibacy or choosing to remain single.

I agree with a lot of what you are saying, but I have to take issue with this. Men do get criticized for choosing not to have sex, or choosing not to marry. A man who chooses not to have sex constantly has his manhood questioned. And any single man who has not been asked when he's gonna find a nice girl and settle down is a man without family.

[–] BlueKey@fedia.io 39 points 3 days ago

No one criticizes men for choosing celibacy or choosing to remain single.

conservative parents enter the chat

[–] protist@mander.xyz 24 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I, for one, criticize incels regularly

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[–] vga@sopuli.xyz 11 points 2 days ago (3 children)

This is not gonna work because all conservative men are closeted homosexuals.

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[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 13 points 3 days ago

Man here, I fully agree with this.

I have been hoping for something to bring down the birthrate of the states that restrict abortion since the restrictions started.

I had been hoping for mass migration of 50% or so of all women from the relevant states, but I see how that can be difficult.

I truly hope that they are successful in gaining their rights back.

[–] nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Ill believe it when I see it, half these women have the most conservative SO you've ever met and tells them they're good people at the end of hard days. Also these particular women are transphobes, so fuck them.

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[–] peopleproblems@lemmy.world 19 points 3 days ago

I say good for them. Go for it. Dating is too stressful for me anyway.

But I'm also a 30+ progressive with a son and ex so I also recognize that there are bigger fish to fry than getting laid.

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