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Lefty Memes

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An international (English speaking) socialist Lemmy community free of the "ML" influence of instances like lemmy.ml and lemmygrad. This is a place for undogmatic shitposting and memes from a progressive, anti-capitalist and truly anti-imperialist perspective, regardless of specific ideology.

Serious posts, news, and discussion go in c/Socialism.

If you are new to socialism, you can ask questions and find resources over on c/Socialism101.

Please don't forget to help keep this community clean by reporting rule violations, updooting good contributions and downdooting those of low-quality!

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0. Only post socialist memes


That refers to funny image macros and means that generally videos and screenshots are not allowed. Exceptions include explicitly humorous and short videos, as well as (social media) screenshots depicting a funny situation, joke, or joke picture relating to socialist movements, theory, societal issues, or political opponents. Examples would be the classic case of humorous Tumblr or Twitter posts/threads. (and no, agitprop text does not count as a meme)


1. Socialist Unity in the form of mutual respect and good faith interactions is enforced here


Try to keep an open mind, other schools of thought may offer points of view and analyses you haven't considered yet. Also: This is not a place for the Idealism vs. Materialism or rather Anarchism vs. Marxism debate(s), for that please visit c/AnarchismVsMarxism.


2. Anti-Imperialism means recognizing capitalist states like Russia and China as such


That means condemning (their) imperialism, even if it is of the "anti-USA" flavor.


3. No liberalism, (right-wing) revisionism or reactionaries.


That includes so called: Social Democracy, Democratic Socialism, Dengism, Market Socialism, Patriotic Socialism, National Bolshevism, Anarcho-Capitalism etc. . Anti-Socialist people and content have no place here, as well as the variety of "Marxist"-"Leninists" seen on lemmygrad and more specifically GenZedong (actual ML's are welcome as long as they agree to the rules and don't just copy paste/larp about stuff from a hundred years ago).


4. No Bigotry.


The only dangerous minority is the rich.


5. Don't demonize previous and current socialist experiments or (leading) individuals.


We must constructively learn from their mistakes, while acknowledging their achievements and recognizing when they have strayed away from socialist principles.

(if you are reading the rules to apply for modding this community, mention "Mantic Minotaur" when answering question 2)


6. Don't idolize/glorify previous and current socialist experiments or (leading) individuals.


Notable achievements in all spheres of society were made by various socialist/people's/democratic republics around the world. Mistakes, however, were made as well: bureaucratic castes of parasitic elites - as well as reactionary cults of personality - were established, many things were mismanaged and prejudice and bigotry sometimes replaced internationalism and progressiveness.



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[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 97 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

I just want women to feel happy and realized without fear of oppression or the need to partake in political violence, but what the fuck do I know.

[–] GrymEdm@lemmy.world 39 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I feel that way about everyone.

[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 16 points 2 weeks ago
[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 25 points 2 weeks ago

Unfortunately we don't get to live in that reality

[–] 7oo7@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 2 weeks ago

I just want my "Thoughts and Prayers" to materialize without any effort.

[–] AngryRobot@lemmy.world 85 points 2 weeks ago (9 children)

On Monday, I was a liberal. On Wednesday, I became a leftist. I will not let my country slide into fascism without fighting back. I have a 73 year old mom who's married to a woman. That woman is one of the most important people in my life. I'm 51 and have known her since I was 19. If anyone comes for them, there will be bloodshed.

[–] ALoafOfBread@lemmy.ml 23 points 2 weeks ago

Solidarity, comrade.

[–] b161@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 2 weeks ago
[–] return2ozma@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago

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[–] jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 2 weeks ago

welcome welcome.

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[–] vzq@lemmy.world 70 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

It’s both. Most people have no appetite or aptitude for political violence.

[–] porous_grey_matter@lemmy.ml 33 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee 13 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Aptitude is only discovered by doing, and most people don't do a violence. So who knows how many savants are out there.

[–] vzq@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Who knows! But I do reject the claim that you can’t be a leftist unless you engage in political violence.

This is a very old controversy in Marxist circles, and it has been known to result in people getting shot. Make of that what you will.

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[–] svcg@lemmy.blahaj.zone 48 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

ITT: People who think "liberal" means any one single thing.

ITT: People who think "leftist" means any one single thing.

[–] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago

I mostly upvoted the meme for the energy.

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[–] sartalon@lemmy.world 23 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

Leftists are deluding themselves.

Just like I deluded myself that there was no way Trump could win a second term.

[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

The second amendment was to defend Americans from tyranny. Trump is that. Use of force in self defense is justified.

"The soap box, the ballot box, the jury box, the cartridge box. Use them in that order."

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 15 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (7 children)

https://www.npr.org/2021/06/02/1002107670/historian-uncovers-the-racist-roots-of-the-2nd-amendment

Tl;Dr the Constitutional Congress didn't really believe in citizen militias providing a sufficient check on federal power. Some power, sure, but by and large the British armies destroyed the militias in the field, with only a few notable successes.

They did, however, recognize that they could serve as a rapid reaction force for wars against natives and putting down slave revolts until the real army showed up. And, of course, militias could be rolled into a professional army and retrained, like what happened with the Civil War.

That isn't to say a genuinely popular revolt wouldn't work, it's just not what the 2nd was really about.

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[–] m_f@midwest.social 19 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Deluding themselves about what exactly?

[–] Jon_Servo@lemmy.world 14 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Yes. Make them explain their words. Deluding how, exactly? Deluded that women would fight for their bodily autonomy? That doesn't seem very delusional to me.

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[–] jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 2 weeks ago

leftists very much believed trump could win a second term primarily because neoliberals would drop the ball during the election. we were warning liberals all year.

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[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)
[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 26 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah that's the point - the two pictures show two types of people who both exist.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 11 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah, and isn't the series as a whole about her trying to go from A to B?

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[–] GrymEdm@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

I agree that women are not going back "into the bottle" as it were. There definitely are females out there opposed to women's rights (especially reproductive and career rights). They will be opposed by a greater number of women + the men who want women to meaningfully participate in society. A nation that refuses to take women seriously ends up cutting their potential leadership, ideas, production, and so on basically in half. Already we see women planning how they are going to resist misogynistic policies, and maybe they don't need my support as a Canadian man but they've got it.

[–] vzq@lemmy.world 27 points 2 weeks ago (20 children)
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