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[–] BaldManGoomba@lemmy.world 14 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Like 9-10 million votes are yet to be counted.

In every swing state except PA. There was record breaking ballots cast. In PA it was close to the record. She lost the election because bad policies not people not showing up. People changed their mind in the 6 swings states. Idk why or what for but this election wasn't lost because of 10 million people not voting it was lost by my calculations 275,092 votes in 4 states.

I'll wait until the count is over to check if she earned more votes in the 6 swing states than biden in 2020. But lots more votes to count again like 10 million yet to be counted almost all in states that are pretty much decided so they didn't make a difference anyway

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[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 14 points 2 weeks ago (9 children)

Alternative major candidate not left enough? I'ma let the extreme right win in that case, it is for everyone's benefit!

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[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 13 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Second highest voter turnout in any US presidential election on record. Both by numbers and percentage of eligible voters.

[–] cranakis@reddthat.com 14 points 2 weeks ago

Yep. Appears America is just that stupid.

[–] anindefinitearticle@sh.itjust.works 13 points 2 weeks ago (32 children)

It was the promise that he could be negotiated to the left.

Instead Joe gave us a country producing the most oil and gas in world history, no movement on healthcare, etc.

The weather is going crazy because of the increase in fossil fuels Biden presided over.

He broke the deal that he could be brought left on economic/environmental/medical issues.

Kamala promised more of the same.

How can you expect anyone to trust the same deal from the VP that the P didn't make good on?

Joe didn't deliver, and Kamala didn't promise anything new.

Four more years of wildfire.

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[–] blazera@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Biden saying he'll bring more of what Obama brought.

Vs Harris saying she'll bring more of what Biden brought.

[–] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 weeks ago

more of what Obama brought.

Well drone strikes and bank bailouts are popular in this country

[–] h3mlocke@lemm.ee 12 points 2 weeks ago
[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

I've heard the following arguments, I'm ordering them in the way I think they effect an election.

  1. Elon musk buyout and the AI lockdown of social media, and banning of tiktok have all had the effect to fracture democratic/leftist messaging (fault: dems, biden, musk, reddit, people who stayed on x. Affected groups: young people, people who are hard to reach with ads)

  2. The primary election is basically undivertable campaign time for democrats. The lack of primary campaigns and debates means harris had less time to build support and a base (fault biden, affected groups: everyone).

  3. Lack of economic excitement around policies and a shutdown of effective messaging on price gouging in favor of saying a former president will surely destroy the country this time. (fault Harris, donors effect, likely low turnout on younger people)

  4. Lack of demographic excitement around key policies. Latinos: Immigration. Muslims: Israel. (fault biden/harris, effect low turnout in key groups)

  5. Wasteful campaign spending on republicans: Courting Liz Cheney and buying ads to woo republicans at best wasted money and at worst is a giveaway to telecoms who immediately donated it to republicans(fault Harris, effect waste)

  6. Covid provided a boost in 2020 that no longer exists

  7. Mail in voting helped some people vote in 2020. I would say this a tossup however because I do think republicans are able to abuse flaws in mail in systems.

  8. Harris is a woman. I don't buy this one because nonvoters seem disengaged rather than hostile.

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[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

People got a clue after 40+ years of Lucy yanking the football away at the last moment.

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[–] Flatworm7591@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 2 weeks ago

I don't think anything about Biden set "the commies on fire", but he was elected long before 7 October 2023, so he didn't have to contend with all the well-deserved outrage over US support for Israel's genocide in Gaza. And yes, I'm well aware it'll likely get worse under Trump. But not being as bad as the next guy simply doesn't seem to inspire voter turnout for some reason.

It's kind of like selling a new brand of chocolate, and advertising it as being "not quite as bad as Hershey's" (yes, I know, it's a low bar), then blaming customers for "sitting on the couch" and not buying it. Oh, and lets not forget that both chocolate bars advertise a policy of "10% of profits goes to genocide".

Democrats are up in arms about people not buying their shitty chocolate bar, when any decent person would just stop eating chocolate if those were the only two options available. But the Democrats refuse to change the recipe or the packaging because it's their position that nothing needs changing - it's the voters who are wrong. Does that sound like an argument that's likely to win over any voters?

[–] shoulderoforion@fedia.io 10 points 2 weeks ago

feelin cute, gonna repost this, might delete later k love you bi

Kamala Harris lost every swing state AND the Senate. We live in the same country we did 4 years ago, we live in the same country that elected Barrack Obama twice.

People are paying 50% more for bread, eggs, and rent, with no relief given, no corporate greed stiffled BEFORE it hit average Americans in the face, and just kept hitting them. The average American doesn't care about economic numbers, they care about whether or not they can pay the rent.

Trump isn't going to make any of this better, he's going to make it ordinates worse. People vote for change, when faced with the inevitability of suffering they'll vote for different, come what may.

[–] Alwaysnownevernotme@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago

Lack of an active genocide?

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