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Maybe this question seems stupid, so be it. But I've seen mostly bad news, and I struggle to get away from it.

I want to know this: What do you think is going to be good and or great in the upcoming four years of us politics?

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[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 60 points 2 weeks ago (8 children)

There's a good chance he dies.

[–] edgemaster72@lemmy.world 19 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I think that's actually a worse scenario. Trump, while evil, doesn't really have the focus or energy to fully enact the entire range of bullshit he could/people say he will. If Vance takes over, his billionaire puppeteers are in full control and he'll enthusiastically continue on with Project 2025. If there's an election in 2028, he gets to run with the advantages of being the incumbent President instead of a VP hoping to take over from his predecessor.

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago

I call that "God's ultimate veto"

[–] joyjoy@lemm.ee 6 points 2 weeks ago

But then we get a couch fucker as president.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 4 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I'm hoping he does before the inauguration.

[–] ExtraMedicated@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago

My money's on choking to death on a burger while sitting on a toilet and jerking it to a picture of his daughter.

[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Great, President Vance is cuming for your couches.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The best case scenario: Trump, Vance and RFK Jr. all take the same Boeing flight to the inauguration and it crashes.

I understand the sentinment but understand that a majority of voters voted for them.

Americans have decided they'd be willing to risk fascism for a chance of the gas prices drop by 5 cents.

They die then Speaker of the House Mike Johnson is president. He will baselessly claim the democrats shot down the plane.

There will be a nationwide purge of any non-maga-republicans.

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[–] pedz@lemmy.ca 46 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

The slow death of the American empire. It may push the rest of the world to a geopolitical realignment that excludes the US. This could allow international organizations to proceed without having the US veto human rights, actions against climate change, or things like that.

[–] SomeAmateur@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 weeks ago

You say that like it hasn't been in decline since 2000 or so lol

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

We will know that is happening if there is ever a real movement to abolish the UN Security Council, or at least the permanent seats that have veto power. Until then, the US will always have that power.

[–] stringere@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 weeks ago

The last 10 years provide excellent reasoning for the removal of the US, Russia, and Israel from any council where they have veto power. Especially given that veto power is often used to allow atrocities to continue.

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[–] Mighty@lemmy.world 26 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

Well there's hope that it incentivices the American people to revolt or revolution. So...yay?

[–] FilthyHands@sh.itjust.works 17 points 2 weeks ago

This is what we want. This is who we are as a nation. There will be no revolution.

[–] WoahWoah@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah totally. The mass of white liberals is going to suddenly revolt and start a revolution lol.

They're going to do what they always do: put their head down and rationalize the oppression of the poor, racial minorities, and women. That, at least, has will stay consistent.

"I DID my part! I took ten minutes out of my day to vote! What else could you possibly expect of me??"

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[–] AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.world 15 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

For people who have 401Ks or other investments, the likely deregulation pushes up stock prices (which is why the stock market had a big bump this week). Oh, sure, those regulations help protect the environment, workers rights, worker health and safety, etc., but: image

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[–] ieightpi@lemmy.world 14 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

I'm not holding my breath but this could be a huge turning point for the Democratic party where they may finally follow the populism playbook that Bernie started in 2016.

[–] MadBabs@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

My pet theory is that this is our opportunity to decimate the 2 party system.

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[–] Diddlydee 11 points 2 weeks ago (13 children)

The tariffs might increase US manufacturing as many people won't want to trade. Maybe.

[–] kersploosh@sh.itjust.works 14 points 2 weeks ago

Or result in US businesses moving their trade dollars from tariff-affectrd countries to others that could really use the money, like Mexico or Central America.

[–] Pacattack57@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

I have a feeling even if this happens we’ll still see an increase in American goods. That high of tariffs ensures there is no competition and American companies can charge whatever they want.

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[–] foggy@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The end of daylight savings.

Fuckhead almost did it.

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[–] dhork@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Maybe I can pump another 10x out of my Crypto portfolio and retire early.

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[–] SomeAmateur@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

If everything works out okay yay.

If everything goes to shit republicans have nobody to blame because they have a majority everywhere and we can vote them out.

And the democrats got a wakeup call they can learn from (but they played the same 2016 tactics and got the same 2016 prize so we'll see if anything sticks next time)

[–] Sergio@slrpnk.net 22 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

republicans have nobody to blame

They will always find someone to blame.

[–] lando55@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago

Minorities. Immigrants. Illegals. The poor. The middle class. Big tech. The economy. China. India. They will always find something.

[–] db2@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

Even if it's complete and total nonsense.

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

That assumes there are no shenanigans with those elections. I believe we will have them (edited to clarify: I believe we will have elections as well as election shenanigans.) We'll just have to see how fair they are.

[–] lolola@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Kinda hope people find out after fucking around so much

[–] Boomkop3@reddthat.com 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You think this might be a learning experience? For whom?

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[–] TranquilTurbulence@lemmy.zip 8 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

The torrent of lies and absurd statements should keep the rest of the world entertained. For most Americans, it’s probably going to be horrifying, tragic and/or embarrassing.

Edit: corrected the mess left behind by autocorrect

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 11 points 2 weeks ago

should keep the rest of the world entrained.

Sorry, but you guys stopped being fun to watch a while ago.

It's now gone well beyond train-wreck levels of horrified "can't look away" viewing.

[–] Boomkop3@reddthat.com 3 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Sorry I'm not native English. I'm failing to figure out what "entrained" means here?

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[–] Nollij@sopuli.xyz 7 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

There is a possibility that Elno gets EVs mandated, or at least promoted to a greater extent. Of course this will only be for Tesla, but there would be a ripple effect on other brands.

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[–] MadBabs@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

My hope is that people really radicalize and realize that it takes others to really thrive and fight in a world/system/government built to neglect. I how people band together more and build stronger communities and practice mutual aid, etc. And that people learn what white supremacy really is...

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[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

I don’t really see him living for another 4 years. I expect his diet, lack of exercise and excess of bike to kill him off; assuming some whackadoodle doesn’t get to him first.

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[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

We're about to see how strong federalism really is. Federalism would either be the last defence against a autocracizing Federal government, or prove to be another joke.

(idk if I even spelled autocracizing correctly, too tired of this bullshit to spell)

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[–] pwnicholson@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

There's a chance that Musk has bought himself enough influence to turn conservatives on climate change. I don't know if I expect it, exactly, but there's a chance at a scenario where there is at least some progress there.

Granted Musk will mostly use it to enrich himself, but if he at least stops then from repealing green subsidies and the like, that's movement in the right direction.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 22 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

What???

You know that nobody becomes a billionaire by giving a shit about anyone but themselves.

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[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago

You are delusional both about Musk and conservatives.

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[–] Pacattack57@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

There’s a lot of information floating around that SOUNDS good. Who knows what kind of things will happen honestly. At best, millions of people suffer and a portion of the population reaps the benefits. What decides how you’ll be affected is your tax bracket.

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[–] bear@lemmynsfw.com 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Great question. I expect more people will move away from identity politics and embrace one of its many criticisms such as queer politics which is more inclusive of everyone.

Scholars have identified queer politics as the opposite of identity politics, aiming to unite diverse marginalized groups and transcend traditional categories.

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[–] bizarroland@fedia.io 2 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

I fully expect an incessant torrent of smug assholes on every corner of social media I go to alongside a never-ending stream of horror stories of all the shitty things that people are doing to other people.

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