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[–] Ephera@lemmy.ml 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I believe, you've posted a windowssucks post...

[–] madthumbs@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Would it be an issue if the bootloader and instructions for dual booting were from Microsoft though? It's also kinda silly to have them on the same drive anyway as it's not like it's not a known common issue.

[–] Ephera@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 days ago

So, what this meme is about, is that Windows upgrades typically overwrite the bootloader.

The user has installed a bootloader with the ability to select between multiple operating systems (typically GRUB) and then Microsoft comes along and undoes this change without asking.

If the bootloader and instructions for dualbooting were from Microsoft, that would imply that they wouldn't keep overwriting GRUB, or at least that the bootloader they overwrite it with, still allows you to select your other operating system.

Microsoft has no interest in fixing this, because they're the monopolist. Continuously interfering with the use of alternative operating systems allows them to keep their competition small.

[–] penquin@lemm.ee 3 points 5 days ago (2 children)

To make this issue less of a pain, put the OS's on separate drives.

[–] superkret@feddit.org 11 points 5 days ago (5 children)

To make this issue go away, remove Windows entirely.

[–] ladicius@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Yep. Windows behaves like a pissed drunk asshole in shared systems. Better kick that idiot out.

[–] madthumbs@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

Kinda lol, but not purposely. I read an article on the last incident involving secure boot and can't say I blame Microsoft for it. It's not like it's them providing the bootloader or instructions either. -There's also the solution of simply keeping the drives separate and using BIOS instead.

[–] penquin@lemm.ee 3 points 5 days ago

Lmfao.
Agreed, but some people do actually need windows. I only have windows for quite literally one game. lol

[–] madthumbs@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago

Sure, but that's something I regret doing. Reverting back from ext4 and BTRFS drives without losing data was a pain. I did consider installing a flip switch for separate drives, but using BIOS to select the drive was simple enough after learning the lesson of deleting the wierd files that showed up on a tertiary drive from this method.

[–] CMDR_Horn@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago

For a long time, the worst thing about having Linux was what windows would do while I was dual booted. Ditching windows completely years back has made my Linux life so much more pleasant

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

Or never update it.

[–] madthumbs@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

Just don't delete any weird files that show up on a tertiary drive (will delete Windows disk). -They can be hidden and require privilege to remove.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago

Holy shit, so true!

[–] Blaster_M@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Something something Microsoft evil something something arch btw

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The problem of which bootloader loads first depends on who updated their bootloader last. I've had different linuxes in multiboot systems steal the bootloaders from eachother.

Also BIOS mode is not good, you don't want to run hardware access through another emulation layer (CSM) that may not support features added in UEFI

[–] bleistift2@sopuli.xyz 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

The only woe I’ve ever had in dual booting is that Windows would enable fast boot automatically, which Linux didn’t like.

Other than that, no problems in the last 10-ish years.

[–] madthumbs@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

Never heard of that, but there was a very recent issue with secure boot. 10-ish years sounds lucky!

[–] merthyr1831@lemmy.ml 0 points 5 days ago

Lemmy dot world ahh post.