I'm still not counting out the possibility that Trump will still claim there was massive fraud and that he should have won bigglier.
this post was submitted on 06 Nov 2024
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One of the first acts of the 2017 campaign was to pursue "election fraud" on the heels of a GOP sweep. Republicans understand the value of a vote in a way Democrats simply don't. They work hard to stack the deck in their favor, which is why voter suppression is the goal of virtually every state GOP governor/legislature.
Meanwhile, Dems simply don't seem to care. They don't repeal gerrymanders. They don't amend the VOA. They don't expand mail in voting. They don't implement DC statehood.
We get an earful about needing to win The Blue Wall States and take the Senate, but where was Biden's DOJ for the last four years? Where was the DHS or the FBI, investigating corrupt municipalities and voter suppression scenes schemes? Where was the SEC and the FEC and his army of USAs chasing down corrupt public-private partnerships? Money from the Saudis, from the Israelis, nevermind the Russians, flowed freely into the election.
Biden's admin spent billions on fights overseas, while giving up the home front right under his nose.
indeed. the supreme Court said the president can do whatever the fuck they want, and instead of codifying roe v Wade, purging the supreme court, doing away with gerrymandering, or really anything helpful, the dnc decided a better option would be to hold it over everyone's heads and then blame voters when no one is motivated to do shit about it.
blame voters when no one is motivated to do shit about it.
Blame voters who went above and beyond to try to get their Selina Myers knock off into the Oval Office for not doing their job for them.
66M people voted for Harris, but we're going to get an earful about how nobody really tried, nobody really turned out, nobody really wanted her to win. It's always everybody's fault except the candidate's for their own failure.
Meanwhile, Dems simply don't seem to care. They don't repeal gerrymanders. They don't amend the VOA. They don't expand mail in voting. They don't implement DC statehood.
I mean, in Michigan they did, at least as far as Michigan has the power to do so. It amounted to fuck all.
So while it's all well and good to continuously look for a way to blame the outcome on one abstract institution or another, at some point you have to just say "fuck the voters who voted for a fascist, and fuck the ones who didn't vote against him".
That would be because liberals fundamentally do not believe it can happen here.
Nope, fake news, y’all cheated. That’s the only thing you should hear for the next 4 years. Your a pussy and a liar and voted for a child rapist.
Don’t discount that ‘election fraud’ scares will be what he uses to dismantle the free and fair election in 2028.
Just like he did the first time he won.
This time it will be used to justify making himself a dictator.
As long as he wins the popular vote he might actually not say anything. We'll see in a few days I guess.
No, a portion of their actual election fraud plans were completely successful, in the weeks leading up to the election the stacked courts allowed GOP states to purge voter rolls with no notice to those that were removed, and after registration deadlines. It's only "legal" because the court said it was, because they're supposed to be the oversight to prevent fraud and abuse.
There is nothing to actually stop the courts from claiming something clearly illegal and in direct contradiction to the law as written is just fine. It would appeal up to the Supreme Court, whose decision is final, period. The only response would be for Congress to Impeach them and a new court to revisit the case. And that'll never happen with our extremely partisan Congress.
This is why the Republicans have focused on the Judicial for over 50 years. They realized that it's the only part of the government that actually has power to override anything else single-handedly. Just get a small majority in Congress (not even if you get the opposing side fragmented a bit) and the Sourts can do whatever the fuck they want with no resistance.
It’s only fraudulent if they lose.. like morals pussies
And the fraud was definitely real - the Democrats might have spent tens of millions of dollars on the campaign, but they secretly didn't want to win again this time, so they didn't do the fraud again, guys...
On the bright side, they don't get the civil war they desired.
What's a little systematic mass murder right?
they don’t get the civil war they desired.
We don't know that yet.
I expect it to go the way of Germany one century ago. If conservatives make authoritarian, bloodthirsty, change too quickly they run the risk of an armed revolution and civil war.
If they go slow and calculated over the next 10-20 years, like a serial killer, they can gradually shift the overton window to where your neighbors not only vocally support murder and terrorism, but actively facilitate or engage in it. In that time they can indoctrinate Gen Alpha to be the executioners, and follow through with a level of grotesque psychopathy Gen Z and millennials were never capable of.
In 20 years millennials and gen z will be 30-60 year olds, you know, the people mostly in control of stuff
Also be prepared for the national debt and deficit to no longer matter. Classic GOP playbook.
It is only fraud if they lose.
I've actually heard about it from some republicans: The fact that Kamala lost 15 million votes is proof that last election was rigged, since anti-trump voters should still vote again this election It's ridiculous.
This was my exact fear, this win would retroactively make the stolen election claims look more legitimate to the cult.
Republican observers have always been present in our county to watch every step of election processing. They never miss any tiny part of the process. My state is still going to be processing mail in ballots for several days, but yesterday morning the Republican observers just disappeared and stopped coming.
Actually I'm subscribed to some right wing newsletters for lols and they sent an email just yesterday complaining about the 2020 "fraud"
not enough cared about it to begin with