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[–] fahfahfahfah@lemmy.billiam.net 110 points 6 days ago (5 children)

Canada’s gonna swing the same way next year so you’re not really escaping from anything anyways

[–] Windex007@lemmy.world 33 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Already swung super anti-immigration as of earlier this year, so the move to Canada plan isn't going to be as easy either

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 13 points 6 days ago

But I’m one of the good ones!

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[–] Nuke_the_whales@lemmy.world 9 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Yeah the Trump win is only gonna help conservatives..I really hate them and their leader, but Trudeau has shit the bed for so long that people are just sick of him

[–] Phil_in_here@lemmy.ca 11 points 5 days ago (3 children)

The Liberals are admittedly a stale 3 day old cheap deli sandwich. People want something warm, fresh, and organic. Conservatives check all of those boxes.

Too bad it's horseshit.

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[–] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 42 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

To be fair, other countries want US citizens even less than the US wants* immigrants.

Do people actually think that the US is alone in anti-immigration sentiment? Do they think it’s different because they’re American?

The US is the one with a giant monument to immigration, at whose feet is a plaque that reads:

Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!

And if they, of all people, are now against that, what makes Americans think anyone else will want them? It’s delusional.

Many countries shut down immigration to Americans in 2016, after the first round of trump’s policies, and they haven’t opened back up yet, partly because there was a solid chance of this happening again.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 20 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

???

It's easy as piss to emigrate from America as long as you:

Are white, middle class, not provably disabled, not gay, with no criminal history, with at least one million in assets, as long as you don't have a history of activism, already are hired by a local company, and have a STEM degree.

See?

Easy.

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 15 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I checked out Canadian requirements. The first stage of screening asks your name, email and year of birth - which only goes back to 1970. So apparently I'm too old.

[–] Starbuncle@lemmy.ca 16 points 5 days ago

That number specifically indicates that they're probably using a positive integer amount of seconds since the epoch (jan 1st, 1970). Rookie mistake.

[–] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 8 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Hey, that’s not entirely fair. Russia is more than happy to accept Americans, so long as they’re willing to be cannon fodder for a while. I’m pretty sure they’re not even putting an age limit on it. If you survive, you may even get a small flat afterwards. And if you don’t, they may give your parents money for a Lada (providing they were Russian citizens already).

e: link

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 12 points 5 days ago

IMO any American who wants to emigrate to Russia is welcome to become topsoil in Ukraine.

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[–] pixxelkick@lemmy.world 60 points 6 days ago (6 children)

It's not much better over here anyways, anti trans laws and oil industry dick sucking is ramping up more than ever.

[–] TheMightyCanuck@sh.itjust.works 23 points 6 days ago (1 children)

This comment brought to you by Alberta®

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[–] veniasilente@lemm.ee 42 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Well, then kick him out. Or maybe guillotine him out, so that he doesn't return.

Like, if people were actually that irked that he won, they'd be doing something. But no, from what I hear El Trumpo actually won the popular vote: the US wants to be fascist. Maybe Canada too. (No, not as in the US wants to be Canada... although that'd be an improvement...)

[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 25 points 6 days ago (4 children)

I’m concerned that there is no doubt this is what America wants.

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[–] FinalRemix@lemmy.world 15 points 6 days ago (1 children)

So far, it's only been his supporters trying to kill him. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[–] veniasilente@lemm.ee 6 points 5 days ago

At least we'll always have the ironic laugh at how the US, a country with guns for everyone, didn't even get a tin medal in shooting the Olympics, and how the US, a country with the 2nd Amendment, can't even kill a tyrant right.

[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 15 points 5 days ago (5 children)

Don't come to Canada. We don't have enough housing for the people already here. Most of you will die of exposure during your first winter here.

Go to Mexico instead. I'm sure they'll take you.

[–] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 7 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Well with Trump in power, factoring in the accelerated climate change ppl may be ok in winter.

[–] Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 5 points 4 days ago (2 children)

As a wisconsinite I can tell you climate change is destabilizing the polar vortex so now there's about a week every year where it's -40 so climate change isn't just about warming but the general change and destabilization of the climate

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[–] Hobbes_Dent@lemmy.world 41 points 6 days ago (3 children)

I love the assumption that other countries would just take American emigrants.

[–] The_v@lemmy.world 17 points 6 days ago (1 children)

It's a shit ton harder than people realize.... well at least to go anywhere in the industrialized world. Unless you are independently wealthy or have an extremely high demand job.

Billy Bob who's career is working at McDonalds isn't going to get approved.

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[–] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 32 points 6 days ago (6 children)

You can outlive this. There's a good chance he can't. Be strong, and look out for those more vulnerable than yourself.

[–] Aeri@lemmy.world 16 points 5 days ago

My concern is that the train is still running at full speed even if the driver has died of a heart attack.

[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 14 points 6 days ago (6 children)

I've been looking for silver linings. The two I've found are:

  1. Trump probably won't live to see the end of his term. Dude is old and not exactly healthy. One could argue Vance taking his place would be worse, but I'm choosing to focus on the positives here.

  2. Trump winning very likely prevented a civil war. I know a ton of people who had been stocking up on supplies and weapons. Again, one could argue giving these people the keys to the kingdom probably wasn't the smartest move, but again I'm trying to focus on the positives.

[–] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 25 points 6 days ago (3 children)

I think he's the devil and he'll never die. I wouldn't count on him dying. In my experience really poisonous people live a long time.

[–] RangerJosie@lemmy.world 14 points 5 days ago (1 children)

He is basically line for line the biblical antichrist. That's infinitely funny to me.

[–] glitchdx@lemmy.world 9 points 5 days ago (1 children)

this is honestly the thing that's getting me to question my atheism.

[–] Kalothar@lemmy.ca 6 points 5 days ago

I mean the Antichrist loses so you go that going for you I guess

[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 8 points 6 days ago

Hey, quit shitting on my silver lining. I choose to believe he'll die soon due to Macdonald's induced heart failure and you can't take that hope away from me!

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[–] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 16 points 6 days ago

Agreed on both points. The second means today is safer although Project 2025 spells danger ahead.

As for Trump, his physical deterioration and dementia and just general chaos of intentions are more of a check on him accomplishing evil than anything legal or political. When he runs the economy completely off the rails will it spark anything in the midterms? Will his Cabinet change every week? How long until he "never met" Elon?

So we draw breath, and persevere.

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[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 11 points 5 days ago

Oh boy, President JD 'couch enthusiast' Vance!

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[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 7 points 4 days ago

Send me up to the ISS. I'll keep the dudes stranded up there company until this whole thing blows over. And if WW3 happens, I'll be safe.

[–] raynethackery@lemmy.world 15 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Don't worry. He'll be coming for Canada. You already have MAGA lovers up there. Who's going to stop him? The Canadian military?

[–] HRDS_654@lemmy.world 8 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

It already well on it's way depending on your province. People have moved out of Quebec because of the intolerance going on there. Hell, I know a streamer who moved because someone threw a fucking brick through their window at his wife who moved there from the USA. Not because she's black or colored either, because she's white as a piece of paper.

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[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 21 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Stay strong people! ~~We~~ Most of us* survived the last Trump presidency, we got this.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 66 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Gaza won't survive. Ukraine likely won't survive.

American democracy's survival is questionable at best.

I'm not saying 'give up'. But we also have to recognize the magnitude of the impact this election is going to have. And many people who stay here despite everything are going to have their lives at risk.

[–] aida@lemm.ee 17 points 6 days ago (1 children)

in simple words. We're fucked.

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[–] newproph@sh.itjust.works 15 points 6 days ago

American democracy? already dead. we have already slipped into constitutional oligarchy territory

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[–] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 20 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Canada is just america but 5-10 years behind on the crazy policies. It really isn't any better and cost of living is often higher than in america.

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[–] StinkySocialist@lemmy.ml 16 points 6 days ago
[–] Resand@lemmy.world 16 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Sure, but there's also half of your countrymen to think about

[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 9 points 6 days ago (1 children)

True. Trump does not hold a monopoly on suck.

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[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 18 points 6 days ago

Immigration in most developed countries is stricter than the US. And we all know the US's immigration restrictions are insane.

[–] scottmeme@sh.itjust.works 10 points 6 days ago (2 children)

If it gets bad I actually will move to Canada, I'm a dual citizen

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