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8 years after Hillary Clinton lost to Trump, Kamala Harris managed to (probably) do it again by recycling Clinton's failed strategy of courting Republicans and out-hawking Trump amidst a Democratic-sponsored genocide she refused to budge on.

The stupidity is almost unbelievable until you remember imperialism always comes first, even if it means losing.


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[–] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 62 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

We all saw, in real time, the popularity Kamala had when she announced, and how it slipped every time she adopted Biden or republican messaging.

She managed to lose popularity at the biggest day of the DNC by bringing out and an ICE cop and republicans to represent the party.

[–] Bassman1805@lemmy.world 23 points 2 weeks ago

I died inside every time she brought up that Dick Cheney endorsed her. That should be a dirty secret, not a core campaign message.

[–] RupeThereItIs@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I mean, maybe, and I'm just saying maybe.... We should have had a primary to pick the best candidate.

Maybe we could have shaken out the bad strategies.

Biden running again fucked us all

[–] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 weeks ago

The important part about primaries is that it forces them to talk about policies, and left-wing policies are popular.

If Kamala had adopted popular policies, and dem media didn't go with hard on immigrantion and crime messaging, she'd have maintained her popularity.

[–] stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com 36 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

Come on now, if she openly spoke out against Israel, she would've lost more votes that she wouldn't have gained. Everyone knows that with Kamala, the chance of a ceasefire would be wayyy better than with Trump.

[–] monobot@lemmy.ml 25 points 2 weeks ago

I don't know much about US politics, but sounds to me it is lies thay people don't want.

They don't like Trump for things he says, but because he is telling it openly. And than other side comes and starts PR and avoiding telling the real plan, which is known to everyone.

When I saw Kamala enetering the race I was certain elections are done and she is the next US president. But they learned nothing and have done everything possible to not be elected. To me, outsider from europe, it looks like this is all on democratic party.

[–] Wes4Humanity@lemm.ee 2 points 2 weeks ago

15 million people didn't show up for Harris who did show up for Biden. There's no way clearly stating she was against genocide would have cost her more votes than that. Maybe not all of them sat it out because of Israel's genocide, but I bet plenty of them did... Especially because of the bullshit on campuses... If she had gotten out there and stood firmly with young people protesting, they'd have stood with her.

[–] Lawdoggo@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

This is the right take. There are a fuckton of wealthy, influential people in the pro-Israel camp and to turn against Israel in an election would be political suicide. Netanyahu created a perfect wedge issue for a Trump victory by continuing down the warpath.

[–] Not_mikey@slrpnk.net 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)
  1. The pro Israel money was already going to trump. Fucking Miriam adelson alone gave him $100 million

  2. Even though the Israel lobby is huge it's not dominant on a national stage. Sure Aipac can take out some first term reps with a couple million dollars but they are dwarfed by the amount of money going into the presidential election. If anyone can take on the Israel lobby it's the presidential candidate with a war chest the size of a small countries gdp.

[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 28 points 2 weeks ago

They should have doubled down on the free lunch and tampon guy instead of celebrating their republican endorsements.

[–] Snowclone@lemmy.world 24 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah that Dick Chaney endorsement was just SUCH a good idea. Remember when W left office and other Republicans begged him to NOT endorse them or talk about them at all because that's how toxic it was to be associated with him? I remember.

[–] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

If you go back on my post history, you can see me predicting this would happen the moment Kamala was chosen as the candidate.

I'm fucking sorry to have been right, I would much rather have been proven wrong, yet, here we are.

[–] Arn_Thor 2 points 2 weeks ago

Eh.. imperialism doesn’t end with the fascist, it just has to recalibrate. An inconvenience at worst.