Ask Lemmygrad

Well I would prefer if they did not defederate with us but if they are taking tips from a full-time anti-tankie from one of the more racist instances on Lemmy at large I don't know what one could say to sway them. Look at their list of posts. This post is linked as "Tankies celebrate r*pe". The mass r*pe story published by NYT was constructed entirely from second and third hand unverified accounts. Regardless of this no one in the screenshot is celebrating r*pe. Stuff like this should not be credible evidence for an anti-zionist and anyone who suggests this nonsense as grounds for defederation should not be taken seriously.

It's wild how much flak lemmygrad gets considering most threads here get single-digit likes and comments. Even if we stayed federated, they probably wouldn't see posts from us unless they subscribed to genzedong or freechat. It makes me feel honored that we're considered as much of a threat as hexbear hahaha

1. Be disingenuous, obnoxious, hostile, insulting, call people fascists and genocide deniers, etc.
2. Get told to fuck off
3. Piss and moan about how "fuck off" is some egregious breach of internet etiquette while all the other behavior is not

Tale as old as time

Edit: the mod whining about how "fuck off" is over the line says we should be killed. Good riddance.

as if jlai.lu users weren’t agressive in this discussion as well

I just posted a story on a lefty imageboard about some guy swiping my friend on the sidewalk and when my very weakly tapped him back in the face he made a scene like he was assaulted. Liberals are dangerous hyper-individualistic villains. I actually consider them a direct enemy of today's left, and not some neutral third party. These french users sound the same.

I mean I am not sure how this has to do with Lemmygrad, A butt hurt lib was mad that hexbear is very active and that how they have it set up they can see other fediverse posts. They are also mad that hexbear is leftist and has issues with their posting culture, posts something nothing happens, a year later same thing and there is a fall out, hexbear decides to defederate beforehand, and that situation is over.

Then we have the ever looming fact Lemmygrad is likely next, but lets be totaly honest here, Lemmygrad is always on the chopping block, because we are not liberals so we are either going aganst the interests of the bigger platforms or we are counter to what they have been told is acceptable, and so will kneejerk ban. Its annoying yes but not much we can do for it.

I get it sucks that they are walling us off from there users, however we cannot do much, best you can do is make an alt that just sits there. Honestly the most concerning thing I keep seeing is the Constant push to change platforms from the Lemmy platform to something else because the lead devs are communist, I basicly never see this done for any other political alignment in open source, however there is a bigger and bigger push for it here.

also why is the french instance a luxemburg domain?

jlai.lu is the french instance of Lemmy

defedrate

I have to admit, I feel disappointed whenever this community attracts negative publicity and it has nothing to do with me, even if it is only somebody taking something that I said so blatantly out of context. For instance, I eventually retitled this thread because 'economic boost' sounded less incriminating than 'boost to capitalism' and after I published this reply, I realized that it sounded kind of mean, yet I was surprised that I was unable to find anybody talking about it.

tous les régimes ML et associés terminent de la même façon, défendus par des tankies prêts à excuser des génocides tout en écrasant n’importe quel mouvement demandant de l’indépendance et de l’autodétermination, quitte à s’associer avec des fascistes qui ont, in fine, le même but politique qu’eux.

This is basically just a minor variation on the trope that we merely hunger for power (rather than wanting the power to end hunger). I've been around the block enough times to know that there is no evidence that I could possibly provide that this anti-Bolshevik would not dismiss out of hand, though sometimes I do wonder… would a generic anticommunist ever have the patience and interest in at least reading one of my many threads on fascism? Since I recognize fascism as a manifestation of capitalism and anticommunism, I suspect that the answer is 'no'.

is the goat our very own adrian zenz?

I'm seeing quite a few misconceptions here and just like to clarify things a bit.

Jlai.lu is a French speaking instance with a majority of French users but also some Belgian, Canadian and Swiss users. The Luxembourg extension is pretty much the same as Redd.it being Italian, with the exact same pun used.

The instance is (European scale) left leaning, with a few leftists being very active (anarchists, communists, socialists...) and a majority of libs, most being libs, some left-leaning libs, a few econolibs. Fascists are immediately kicked out when identified, right-wingers usually end downvoted when explaining their views but are allowed. For context fascists are currently 1/3 to 1/2 of voters in France, depending on the cutoff you use, the whole right pushing to fascism for fear of socdem trying to be social.

An ass launched the idea of defederating hexbear for personal reasons, which turned into a few hexbear users becoming a nuisance on the thread.

The instance admin opened the idea of defederating here and hexbear as a discussion. I don't know why lemmygrad was mentioned at all. Hexbear defederated from their side.

Votes were cast on people reacting to the ass-thread more than real checking as there are very few interaction between the instances.

Jlailu admin stated that they were thinking about the issue and saw the vote as food for thought but not as a direct decision maker to defederate. Admin is against defederation. At no point is it deemed unavoidable. A few users have tried to point to "problematic" content, usually ending on whatever (didn't spend the energy cross checking, every instance has shitposts for who digs, admins having a life offline).

Not much to add except that translations are bound to hurt. In France :

Communism is seen as either a slur from people not knowing what it is or as an achieved form, but still usually including some actors of transition (Lenin, Sankara) but excluding others (Stalin, Xi). Don't ask why, that's not the point, it's just that's how french language evolved and the context needed if you start to dig.

Also, the French socialist party has become right-wing soc-dem (left wing socdem being LFI). The french communist party is... Something, not sure it's leftist (closest to communist/Marxist/socialist parties would be NPA or luttes ouvrières). So the words really need context.

Il y a quand même un comble quand on vient défédérer une instance "autoritaire" et se dire non-autoritaire. C'est pas autoritaire de forcer la déféd ? Ce n'est pas intolérant d'empêcher les gens de parler entre eux ?

Comme quoi le gauchisme transcende les pays et les moeurs pour s'installer dans toutes les voies, le chien galeux qui marche aux côtés de Lénine à ses dépends, comme dans le poème.

Je tiens quand même à rappeler que la politique de sinicisation au Xinjiang est reconnue par le gouvernement Chinois, que ce soit culturellement ou via l’import de colons Hans.

Ah bon depuis quand ?

Pendant ce temps nous on continue de fédérer avec toutes les "vraies" instances lemmy, c'est elles qui défédèrent.

I find domenico losurdo "class struggle" very relevant book explaining the behaviour of western leftists.

Chapter 4, section 2 titled "imperial socialism" explains how western leftists turn a blind eye and delegitimize oppressed nations liberation struggles because they directly benefit from it, these "socialists" would gladly provide loyalty to their regimes in exchange of concessions. Disraeli and Proudhon being prime examples of it.