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[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 37 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Holy shit, "uses racist slur" puts it mildly.

[–] TJDetweiler@lemmy.ca 17 points 2 weeks ago

No kidding. Pretty upsetting and eye opening, especially as she only finished 23 votes behind her NDP opponent.

[–] nyahlathotep@sh.itjust.works 26 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

They fought each other all the time.

Right, Europeans have never fought each other or others for frivolous reasons

[–] GottaKnowYourCHKN@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

Of course not! White people never get violet, upset at each, commit crimes against each other, assault each other, and are just the epitome of politeness 24/7.

[–] Clent@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

Totally different. They did it while being white.

[–] Soleos@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

Yes, but you see, the frivolous killing of each other was in context of a legal framework. It's completely different! /Sarcasm

[–] luciferofastora@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 weeks ago

When there are military elites writing about how battle is important and joyful and "[N]o man is worth a thing till he has given and gotten blow on blow", closing with "Barons, pawn your castles, and your villages, and your cities before you stop making war on one another" and how his Lord "has lived in peace too long", without particularly sticking out from the spirit of his times, you just know they were the most peaceful and civilised people ever.

[–] PunnyName@lemmy.world 23 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

What the fuck is going on that these bigots are not only in power, but emboldened to say heinous shit?

[–] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 16 points 2 weeks ago

There's a not insignificant number of people that share their beliefs and are tired of hiding that fact. Combined with a decent number of single issue voters that don't give a shit about anything other than their own issue.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)
[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

23 votes away from power is statistical error away from power.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 weeks ago

The difference is increasing as they're counting the mail in ballots

[–] PunnyName@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I'm not only talking about Canada, but globally. Fascists are worming their way into power all over the place, while spitting vitriol.

[–] Jarix@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

What if i told you fascism is a symptom. We are not doing enough to maintain and better our societies. This is what you get when you fuck over everyone by letting bad actors reign supreme.

We need a new party to vote for. We need to change HOW we govern ourselves.

But we dont and wont as long as people care more about benfitting themselves, to hell with everyone else.

You want to fix it?

you need good people with the support of enough people to be voted in and be able to operate without needing to kowtow to special/selfish interests.

It means allowing that we are NOT all the same. We dont agree on much right now, not enough of us.

It also requires sacrifice by those who have been mistreated. That is the bitterest pill of all

[–] rabber@lemmy.ca 14 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Rustad is a confirmed piece of shit for not firing here instantly

[–] TJDetweiler@lemmy.ca 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

My standards for conservatives are so damn low that the fact that he said the whole bit about how her views don't reflect the views of the party made me feel somewhat relieved. I realize this is simply platitudes and is nothing more than damage control to retain votes.

I do agree though, she should be fired and barred from politics. What an abhorrent thing to say.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 weeks ago

The standard for the cons these days is to say nothing or even double down.

[–] GrymEdm@lemmy.world 14 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Here in Alberta a candidate compared trans kids to literal feces. She was disavowed by the Conservatives for a time, STILL got elected (as an independent), and earlier this month the Conservatives welcomed her back into the fold after a vote. These people almost never suffer actual consequences for their hatred.

Edit: I ended on a grim note, so I'd like to say I have hope situations like these and our responses will get better with time. I think generations that grew up with the Internet are going to be more used to/accepting of novel experiences and opinions simply by virtue of seeing a world's worth of them. Of course that's not to say either being open-minded or not is restricted to age, just a trend I've noticed. There's some data to support this, but we'll have to see how it evolves over time.

[–] TJDetweiler@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah I've seen that.. Embarrassing that someone like that got elected. Embarrassing for Albertans that they would elect someone like that. My experience of Alberta over BC, especially Victoria, is it was much more conservative, and tended to be more racist. I spent some time working in Edmonton, and I saw more racism in a year there than in my 30 years in Victoria.

I agree with your statement about things getting better. There seems to be a lot less racism in younger people than old.

[–] lath@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago

If one thing history has proven is that natives were never more savage than the colonists that took their lands.