From that line of thought, a Trump victory would see the US pivot to courting Russia again and try to divide them from China. Would the US deep state approve? I think ultimately that's the question we can only speculate about. There's evidence that suggests the Ukraine war has only strengthened Russia relative to the NATO bloc, so I don't think it's out of the question.

[–] chickentendrils@hexbear.net 8 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

For the average Ukrainian? Probably, for the wrong reasons, unless the defense contractors get to him first and cut him in on the action. But yeah if the scale of the fighting had been smaller or gone on for weeks instead of months or years things would obviously be better for the average person than what has happened. Maybe the national government administrating their region would change, maybe not, but there was never any humanitarian reason to displace million, kill tens of thousands, and pour enough gas on it to destroy the built environments supporting millions more. To me it's more cruel to keep stringing it along and seeing more destruction.

[–] edge@hexbear.net 5 points 3 weeks ago

Ukraine has been Biden's project since 2014, and Harris would inherit it of course.

Trump already has beef with Ukraine and Zelenskyy over the Hunter Biden/impeachment stuff. He also doesn't rabidly hate Russia like liberals do.

I think he'd drop Ukraine quick, which would of course be good for the Ukrainian people since the war would end.

Plus it gives the State Department an excuse to focus their resources on Israel.

[–] D61@hexbear.net 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Ponderings...

Maybe the "hot" war would come to an end but it isn't out of the question for things to change into tit-for-tat terrorism and counter-terrorism operations for... well... longer than we'll be alive.

If the USA changes its foreign policy goals towards Russia/Ukraine does that mean a total stop of military hardware or will Ukraine be able to skip the USA government and purchase straight from the manufacturers? Will the EU's manufacturing capacity be able to take over the load if the USA's sources are cut off from Ukraine? Will EU's MIC just funnel American sourced weapons/equipment to Ukraine... but with a much larger markup?

How much sway do the EU arms manufacturers have to keep eastern Ukraine a permanent battlefield to make sure all the contracts for future equipment/ammo aren't canceled?

There's a lot of money for a few, probably very well connected people/businesses that could be put in danger if all military operations were to end.