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[–] dead@hexbear.net 108 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (5 children)

Frogan, Vio, Denims, and Capri are all friends of Hasanabi. I think they're all Leftist. Frogan is a muslim woman and said she hopes that American soldiers get PTSD for helping Israel (based). Vio is comedy twitch stream, but I think with Leftist sympathy. Vio also lives with / is dating Central_Committee (Mike_From_PA on twitter), which is the second largest self-proclaimed socialist news channel on twitch. Denims is a woman on twitch who talks about some Leftism stuff. Capri aka CapriSunnPapi is Palestinian/Lebanese man. Frogan and Capri both have family who live in Lebanon. I think these are actually cool people, not vaushite people.

here's a video where Frogan and Capri talk about their family in Lebanon. They talk about their families being bombed by Israel.
https://youtu.be/zrnc6j6zNy4?t=1501

The bans were probably lead by Ethan Klein and Destiny's community.

[–] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 100 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Ethan and Destiny are taking credit for the bans and gloating on their shows, in reality the ADL claimed they spoke directly with Twitch staff which was followed by the bans

This shit is so obviously racist, straight up targeted harassment of Arab and pro-Palestine streamers by zionists and their right-wing allies

[–] sewer_rat_420@hexbear.net 56 points 1 month ago (1 children)

ADL probably wouldnt have noticed until D and subsequently h3 made it a thing. But thats definitely the pressure twitch had to cave to.

[–] mamotromico@lemmy.ml 20 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

And to be more specific, it could be based on an insinuation that the hummus brand name was code for “Israeli-borne Jew” that I saw ethan saying it’s a thing based on comments on the D psychos.

Which is of course 100% not real but who gives a shit right.

[–] Piment@hexbear.net 22 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Do you want to know something funny? The term Sabra comes from the name of the prickly pear cactus plant in Hebrew and the settlers assumed the cactus was a native plant to the territory. So they thought a plant represented them that they assumed was native to the land, but actually was not at all native to the land.

Since the early days of Jewish immigration to then-Mandate Palestine, Israelis have called the ideal Israeli, who is born in the country, a sabra: tough on the outside like the thorny fruit, soft on the inside like its sweet flesh, and native to the soil like the plant. (Although like many Israelis, sabra is actually an immigrant, having arrived from the Americas via Spain several centuries ago.)

https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/what-does-sabra-mean

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[–] Xiisadaddy@lemmygrad.ml 48 points 1 month ago

I bet the only reason they banned that one smelly guy who supported genocide for 2 weeks was so they could do this and claim they are doing "both sides" and not just serving the ADL

[–] Monk3brain3@hexbear.net 20 points 1 month ago

Ethan can go fuck himself. Typical Zionist Jewish supremacists piece of shit. The only issue ever is anti semitism for him. He doesn't give a shit about anything else. He's so obsessed he has to create a problem when ther isnt one. When you're on the same side as destiny you've completely lost the plot. Fucking assholes like these just making everything worse makes me such a pro doomer and the way things are going with the environment I guess I have something to be happy about.

[–] Des@hexbear.net 64 points 1 month ago (3 children)

i mean yes in the end it's all streamer drama (to all those that will be like "who are these people ?" to sound cool)

but at the core but it does demonstrate the outsized influence that can be deployed against even the mildly leftist pipeline types. there is precious little in this space for younger people that isn't chud, chud-adjacent, straight fascist, or fascist adjacent zionazi.

it does show how quickly and throughly the entire tiny ecosystem of leftist creators could be absolutely shut down if there was a cross platform coordinated ban. imagine just every leftist instantly having all their socials closed, banned from every platform, utterly silenced and how little anyone would be able to do about it.

because it's coming

[–] dead@hexbear.net 42 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I would add that despite these people being streamers, their communities also do some activism in real life, like participating in the antiwar student encampment protests and other protests in support of Palestinians.

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[–] Xiisadaddy@lemmygrad.ml 37 points 1 month ago

Hopefully some of these big communities will see the writing on the wall and move to places like lemmy, matrix, etc. If all the big leftist streamers got together they could probably afford to make their own site they control, and multistream to it, and twitch or something that way when a ban comes they have it to fall back on.

[–] hotcouchguy@hexbear.net 30 points 1 month ago

At least podcasts are relatively decentralized, or at least more easily moved

[–] Llituro@hexbear.net 54 points 1 month ago (1 children)

goddamn ADL is tweeting about Frogan by name now, as if she doesn't get enough constant threats of death and violence and SA

[–] HumanBehaviorByBjork@hexbear.net 42 points 1 month ago

ADL when they see an Arab woman with an audience: pigmask-off

[–] 4am@lemm.ee 17 points 1 month ago

Or the ADL: https://x.com/ADL/status/1848501823100932346

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[–] DengistDonnieDarko@hexbear.net 90 points 1 month ago (1 children)

i enjoyed the double entendre of "likes Sabra", as both criticizing people who like the shitty hummus and also the massacre it's named after.

[–] Babs@hexbear.net 52 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Well you see Sabra could also mean "israeli-born person" so it's actually super antisemitic to talk about the shitty grainy hummus.

[–] EllenKelly@hexbear.net 34 points 1 month ago (2 children)

The term alludes to a tenacious, thorny desert plant, known in English as prickly pear, with a thick skin that conceals a sweet, softer interior. The cactus is compared to Israeli Jews, who are supposedly tough on the outside, but delicate and sweet on the inside.

which ya know, additionally silly when you consider the plant is from the Americas, and was widely used in colonial states as a living fence

[–] SadArtemis@hexbear.net 31 points 1 month ago (1 children)

"Sweet and delicate inside" is a hell of a way to describe "full of rancid shit and bloody entrails" tbh, they're so full of themselves lol...

What part is the "sweetness" again? It's certainly not given to the indigenous Arabs- so who is it for? Non-Arabs, like the Asian laborers they prevent from fraternizing with locals or having sex whatsoever in the country (racist racial purity bullshit from the sounds of it)? To their fellow Jews, like the Ethiopian Jews they have forcefully sterilized, the Yemeni and other MENA Jews they discriminate against, or all those Jewish people who reject their settler-colonialism- or even those fellow Zionists who simply have concerns or get in the way (that Hannibal protocol lol)?

What sweetness exactly are we talking about lol.. they may as well have called the Nazis sweet, their attitude in some ways even is more repulsive than that.

[–] Riffraffintheroom@hexbear.net 26 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Asian laborers they prevent from fraternizing with locals or having sex whatsoever in the country

Jesus fucking Christ.

https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2003/dec/24/israel1

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[–] NephewAlphaBravo@hexbear.net 23 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The metaphor would make more sense if you opened up a prickly pear and inside was just more spines pointing inward

[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 30 points 1 month ago

It would make more sense if the fruit in question was a bomb that detonated inside a hospital.

[–] Llituro@hexbear.net 76 points 1 month ago

banned for a sanctioned event at Twitch's own convention is a fucking insane thing to do to them. these myopic zionist pieces of shit aren't content with violently starving Palestinians and Lebanese people in those countries, so apparently they have to try to starve the vocal ones that live in amerikkka too. interesting that they didn't ban the actual Jewish person that was part of the same event, whose idea it was, seemingly. they also put one of the Arab people that got banned (denims) at the bottom of the "loves sabra" tier, how does that stack with "Sabra = Jew" calculus that the ADL is pushing?

[–] Justice@lemmygrad.ml 74 points 1 month ago (2 children)

There’s 100% a life-destroying defamation suit to make against Ethan and Stephen “grandpa owned slaves” Bonnercelli opening here. Ethan especially, stupidly, has been lying openly repeatedly. Obviously Amazon and the Twitch CEO specifically can now be roped into a civil suit and also maybe defamation if their internal reasoning for this is literally “because Arabs.”

The first two could be sued by “normal” people and extract ass-destroying settlements. Unfortunately due to Hellscape and all that, Amazon could only be taken on with a chance at winning by ACLU or some other free speech organization with millions to throw at causes. The chances of actually successfully extracting a win from the company is probably not high enough (even though they did clearly cause undue harm and their TOS wasn’t even breached- not that TOS even matters) for them to engage. Nor are the consequences high enough. As in, they aren’t going to prison (yet… let the Nazis keep chipping away).

But I do hope Ethan is sued into oblivion. I haven’t seen anything from Nazielli because I don’t watch his dumb shit. If he’s said anything even 1% as defamatory as Ethan in the last month or so, rope his ass in too along with any other of the pro-genocide dumbasses. The case would be pretty straight forward. Nothing to do with actual pro-Palestinian sentiments just a pure factual look at “Was this anti-semitic… no, clearly not, Ethan, bend over, reach into deep asshole, pull out cash. Steve, you’re next.”

[–] sewer_rat_420@hexbear.net 35 points 1 month ago (1 children)

He loooovveeeessss to talk about all his big Ws in court. I think his legal battles have stoked his ego so much, and a FAT L like that makes me salivate. (Ive just finally canceled my membership, watches regularly up until he started bringing the antisemitism shit up every fucking day)

[–] mkultrawide@hexbear.net 23 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

He already caught a fat L in court over slandering Ryan Kavanaugh. It's part of what broke his brain.

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[–] WorkingClassCorpse@hexbear.net 24 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Honest question: how much would such a lawsuit rely on the definition of antisemitism, and how much of an issue is it that the US congress has been making a specific push to include anti-zionism in the definition of antisemitism?

I honestly kinda doubt our justice system would give them a fair definition right now.....

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[–] autismdragon@hexbear.net 60 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

me: I am against the death penalty

i am reminded of destiny's existance

Me: well... hmmm

[–] miz@hexbear.net 57 points 1 month ago (1 children)

zionist einsatzgruppen openly exterminating people in Gaza right now, and these are the "rules" the west is enforcing. not international law, just Calvinball and the ADL calls the shots.

[–] BeamBrain@hexbear.net 40 points 1 month ago

I am so sick of this weaselly bullshit where Zionists pretend that they're poor discriminated victims and get people silenced for "antisemitism." Using the banner of anti-racism to facilitate actual genocide.

[–] grandepequeno@hexbear.net 55 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Ethan KKKlein of Heinrich3Himler3 and the ADL teamed up for this one, honestly we're lucky hasan isnt getting it too because Ethan is leveraging his huge platform against him

[–] mkultrawide@hexbear.net 22 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

They originally wanted to call the channel HH88 but that was slightly too obvious.

[–] WorkingClassCorpse@hexbear.net 19 points 1 month ago

Wasn't he doing a stream targeting the twitch ceo and feigning outrage that Hasan hasn't been banned yet today?

That guy is completely lost his fucking mind

[–] Angel@hexbear.net 53 points 1 month ago

I thought Zionists wanted people to condemn hummus. Did I not hear them correctly?

[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 43 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Twitch once again proving the whole point of their site is to create the most racist community online. They only banned Israel because having them in the site is like doping.

[–] Justice@lemmygrad.ml 48 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They didn’t “ban” Israel - that was another half-cocked Diverocelli lie. Twitch put out a statement on it, but basically they turned off the ability to signup via email in the days following Oct 7 last year because they didn’t want people uploading, you know, all the shit going on. They said they forgot to turn it back on for some segment of the region and have now fixed it. Also, they turned off new account signups for not just Israel Israel but the entire region occupied by Israel. So, another point against the dumbass Bonerelli fans thinking they had a point. If anything it sounds like Twitch is anti-Palestine as in they hate the land and anyone living there. They don’t care who lives there, just ban the region (sarcasm, obviously)

[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 23 points 1 month ago

Ah ffs, I had been thinking up funny bits all day long thinking it was real.

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[–] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 23 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Can some one clue me in on what this means? I'm not in the Twitch drama loop

[–] dead@hexbear.net 36 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Twitch 30-day banned 5 twitch streamers, 4 of which are Arab, for making a chart which said that people who eat Sabra brand hummus are not Arab, as part of an episode of an Arab podcast called Ayyrabs. Sabra is an Israeli company and their Hummus tastes bad. Zionist groups, such as ADL, demanded that twitch give these bans because these 5 streamers promote antizionism and make politically Left content. Two of the banned streamers have family who are currently being bombed in Lebanon by Israel.

https://kotaku.com/twitch-ban-fr0gan-denims-capri-raffoul-adl-ethan-klein-1851677969

[–] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 22 points 1 month ago

Ty

Holy shit fuck Isntreal

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