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[–] Apytele@sh.itjust.works 90 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

If emotional salary is another word for higher nurse:patient ratio I'm actually all for it and would treasure being able to slow down and both conserve more energy for myself and have more time to actually feel like I'm taking care of people instead of shoving pills in people's faces and running on to the next one. That's also a functional raise in that I'd be doing less overall work for the same pay.

But realistically that is also an increased expenditure for my boss same as paying me more and they're actually talking about more tea carts and pizza parties.

Was just talking to my coworker last night about how ppl be sayin' dumb shit like "ratios aren't the only thing that affect quality of care its more complex than that!" It's 90% of the problem. Stop acting like that other shit matters even half as much and admit that 90% of the problem has a super simple fix that you just don't want to pay for.

Same with housing and the mental health crisis. "Well it's more complex than that people actually also need-" shut up. Just shut the fuck up. If any other problems in the world had super simple 90% fixes and then you only have to worry about the remaining 10% complex part we would be jumping on that shit.

But telling jeff bezos to pay his fair fucking share and putting it towards housing people is just straight heresy in the church of capitalism.

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)

"It's more complex than the obvious huge part of the problem" should be the start of saying that the problem should be addressed and then we should also work on those other things too.

Like how both pay AND working environment need to be improved instead of choosing one over the other!

[–] krashmo@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

They may be threatening to unionize over low pay but I bet a pizza party will clear that right up.

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 52 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I like where I work. I like my coworkers, I like my managers, I like the corporate "culture" and the flexible working conditions that permit a reasonable work-life balance.

Those are things I like.

I need to pay my mortgage, and buy food, and have health insurance, and pay my bills.

Those are things I need.

You cannot replace the latter with the former. My needs must be met, and my expenses only go up every year. If I can be paid more elsewhere, it is irresponsible of me to stay somewhere that does not provide sufficient value for my time. I am always looking for a new job.

But there is some truth to the concept. Once a certain threshold is met, I look for the perks of a healthy employer relationship. And if the emotional salary is very low, I'm going to start considering alternatives even if I don't get a pay raise.

[–] TexasDrunk@lemmy.world 31 points 1 month ago (1 children)

But there is some truth to the concept. Once a certain threshold is met, I look for the perks of a healthy employer relationship. And if the emotional salary is very low, I'm going to start considering alternatives even if I don't get a pay raise.

The issue is that jackasses will try to apply this across the board, just like every other "management" technique that includes anything other than paying your people more.

To be clear, I'm not disagreeing with you. I'm just mad because this kind of shit defined the first decade of my career. The company that did it got bought out and the folks at the top got a fat payday while the rest of the underpaid "we're all family here" got let go.

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

You're right.

[–] candybrie@lemmy.world 49 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Headline writers are the worst. The actual article isn't too bad. It acknowledges pay is important and it needs to be a liveable salary.

These very feelings allow companies to stand out, even if they can’t outpay all of their competitors. Of course, livable wages are critical for all individuals, but once reasonable compensation is established, emotional salary can outweigh base salary when it comes to engaging and retaining top talent. When paired with fair pay, a strong emotional salary can lead to higher job satisfaction, catalyzing a more committed employee base.

Which is kind of like a duh. If you hate your boss, think your company is ruining the world and the hours suck, then they'd have to pay a lot to retain you if you can get a job somewhere else. Whereas if you're besties with your coworkers, your boss regularly shows his appreciation for you, and your company is alright, and you aren't hurting for money then you're less likely to even be looking at what other companies are offering.

[–] underisk@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 month ago

Yeah that all seems pretty common sense. The problem is the people who make the decisions about this stuff pretty much only read headlines, if they don’t get this shit fed to them second hand from some sycophant who also only read the headline. When it reaches their ears what they’ll hear is “increase pizza parties 20% and create a rewards system that lets you buy cheap plastic baubles with good boy coupons.”

[–] kat_angstrom@lemmy.world 33 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Why would anyone want money in exchange for labor, when they can just have butterflies, rainbows, and hugs?

[–] Zier@fedia.io 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You're getting paid rainbows as well? Must be nice to be so rich! Are you guys hiring???

[–] kat_angstrom@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

Oh, they're metaphorical rainbows that live in our hearts, and shine brighter with each passing quarter as corporate profits continue to inflate to record highs, stimulating an internal sense of pride & joy to be working for such a successful company.

[–] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 21 points 1 month ago

let me guess: somebody said that keeping people miserable is not only pointless, but also bad for the holy productivity, and after translating into ghoulish-managerial it came out as something to the effect of "here's how you can get benefits of higher wages without actually spending money!" but it'll end up being something like weekly complimentary banana or something of that sort

bonus points if it's really an ad for grifty guide/book/course/bootcamp

[–] cows_are_underrated@feddit.org 20 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I think in some cases this is really true. There are enough people switching workplaces because their current workplace sucks. If you have enough money but you hate being forced into office, have to drive every day for 1.5h and getting little to no benefits its absolutely worth to switch to another workplace even if you get slightly less money.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

You can have this problem even if you work from home. I've been busting my ass for two months to clean up somebody else's mess only to get blamed by our incompetent executives for the mess existing in the first place. So I've got a job interview today.

ETA: Nailed the interview.

[–] cows_are_underrated@feddit.org 1 points 1 month ago

Of course. This was just one example.

[–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 19 points 1 month ago

Emotional salary is something we give ourselves through organizing. ✊

[–] draughtcyclist@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] PrimeMinisterKeyes@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

"Business bad? Fuck you, pay me.
Oh, you had a fire? Fuck you, pay me.
Place got hit by lightning, huh? Fuck you, pay me."

[–] ownsauce@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] chunkystyles@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 month ago

That sounds like emotional labor.

[–] beebarfbadger@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago

"It's like a pizza party - but without the pizza costs!"

[–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 1 month ago

Forget the paycheck, employees really want ̶a̶ ̶r̶a̶i̶s̶e̶ ̶i̶n̶ ̶e̶m̶o̶t̶i̶o̶n̶a̶l̶ ̶s̶a̶l̶e̶r̶y̶ to own the means of production and getting paid the true value of their labor

[–] hperrin@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Forget the check, landlords really want to receive emotional rent every month.

[–] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

Landlords just want a lanyard and a pizza party at the end of the day.

[–] GenderNeutralBro@lemmy.sdf.org 11 points 1 month ago

There's a way to say this that isn't so gross: good working conditions are valuable. Quality of life is valuable. Work-life-balance is valuable. Mental and physical health is valuable. Not having raging shitbags in management is valuable.

The problem is that you can't focus on secondary factors until the primary factor is taken care of. And the primary factor is that people need a living wage. Rent is expensive. Food is expensive. God help you if you need to pay for childcare.

If you're already paying your employees a fair living wage, then yes, you should absolutely think about how you can improve working conditions.

As an example, if my company gave me the option to switch to a 4-day workweek for the same pay, or stay at a 5-day workweek for a 25% raise, I'm honestly not sure which one I'd prefer. But we all know that's never going to happen; instead the choice would be to take a 20% pay cut or maintain the status quo. I wouldn't take that deal because I'm not making enough money to live on 20% less.

[–] Skyline969@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I would actually throat punch someone who offered to pay me a higher “emotional salary” in lieu of more money.

[–] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

Imma pay you in pussy.

[–] strongarm@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Once upon a time business owners would build houses for their staff, I wonder how far off we are from that again?

It won't necessarily be a good thing

[–] FarFarAway@startrek.website 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Welcome to snailbrook I'm assuming enough people live there for them to open a 50 student Montessori school.

[–] strongarm@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 month ago

Well there you go

[–] zbyte64@awful.systems 6 points 1 month ago

Fulfillment is the satisfaction you get with a hardy meal made with billionaires.

[–] Zier@fedia.io 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I want affordable, full Medical, Dental & Vision. A living wage. A Union. Paid Vacation & Sick Leave. 40 Hours a week minimum with Time & a half if overtime occurs. No one is ever allowed to call me during my off hours. Do not throw me a birthday party at work, and I am not participating in Secret Santa. And I want to work for a boss who is normal, not a psychopath / dictator / micromanaging freak.

[–] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

I have all that in my job, but they still give me a birthday cake which is nice.

[–] SARGE@startrek.website 4 points 1 month ago

Continuation of "how about a nice pizza part after hours unpaid?" "PAY US MORE MONEY"

[–] HotsauceHurricane@lemmy.one 3 points 1 month ago
  • insert video of Jigglypuff beating the shit out of Clefairy here
[–] Mango@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Well then, I'll be sure to do some really emotional work.

[–] Zannsolo@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

We work for different companies but I'm my best friend's(from college) technical lead on a project. I told him he was special and great then I congratulated him on his raise. Then I sent him a picture of this 🤣.

[–] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Ahahahahahaha. It's his emotional paycheck.

[–] Rin@lemm.ee 3 points 1 month ago

Pay me more money and I'll buy my own emotional salary

[–] AeonFelis@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago
[–] leaky_shower_thought@feddit.nl 2 points 1 month ago

bold of them of assume I cannot increase my emotional salary by paying me more salary

[–] rain_worl@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

use that font for one letter at most

[–] latenightnoir@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

Oh, YEAAH, DADDY, SHOVE THAT CAMARADERIE RIGHT UP MY ASS AND SLAP MY CHEEKS!