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[–] justastranger@sh.itjust.works 151 points 1 year ago (69 children)

It's like every time there's a war everybody forgets how fucking long they take. WW2 took six years. The Vietnam War took almost 20 years, same with the Afghanistan War. Anybody expecting anything solid within the next couple years is delusional. Ukraine is in it for the long haul.

[–] SheeEttin@lemmy.world 66 points 1 year ago (7 children)

That's not strictly true. On the short end, there was the six-day war. On the long end, there was the hundred years' war.

Putin was clearly aiming for the short option, but then I suppose most belligerents usually are.

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[–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 91 points 1 year ago (112 children)

You know what? I never thought I'd say this but I'm with Ukraine on this one.

This whole counter offensive insanity is so militarily nonsensical that it had to have been mounted to please the West with a "win" so that they'd stay in the war. Real Chiang Kai Shek committing the best of the KMT army to Shanghai to impress the Westerners energy.

The West is standing on the sidelines, supplying just enough equipment to keep the embers going and judging the ordinary Ukrainians going to their deaths by their hundreds.

Fuck the clowns in charge in Kiev and fuck the Nazi militias obviously. But at this point the men being sent to the front are old men and boys dragged off the street against their will. Sending them to die to appease the West is fucking sick.

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[–] thecodemonk@programming.dev 87 points 1 year ago (207 children)

The comment threads here are weird. Who, in their right mind, would ever support a country like Russia? It's mind blowing.

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[–] Egon@hexbear.net 79 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (32 children)

There sure are a lot of Lemmy bro-gaders and NATO shillbots in this thread. That's the only explanation for people disagreeing with me.
smuglord

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[–] Ginjutsu@lemmy.zip 71 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (79 children)

HexBear and brigading yet another Ukraine thread with misinformation and Kremlin propaganda, name a more iconic duo.

EDIT: It appears that I've triggered the horde.

[–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 84 points 1 year ago (56 children)

Are the Hexbear users who are saying Ukraine is being ungrateful repeating Kremlin propaganda or are the Hexbear users who are saying Ukraine has a point repeating Kremlin propaganda?

Is Kremlin propaganda just ontologically what a Hexbear user says?

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[–] Egon@hexbear.net 77 points 1 year ago (46 children)

Libs and calling responding to a post that pops up on our feed "brigading"
Libs and calling claims with citations and references "propaganda"

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[–] footfaults@hexbear.net 73 points 1 year ago

brigading is when people disagree with me on a site where people post news articles and everyone posts their opinion

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 71 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

It's the second post on our /all/ page?

You've all got to get used to the way federation works. Because everyone is federated with different instances the /all/ page is different for different instances. This means that when a thread reaches /all/ on a specific instance you will get a lot of their users showing up at the same time. This is true of all the large instances, lemm.ee and lemmy.ml pour into our threads all at once when they reach the top of their feeds, but it's different for every site so you get this outcome where a lot happens all at once.

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[–] puff@hexbear.net 69 points 1 year ago

'Brigading is when you federate and then use the federation feature. I am very smart.'

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[–] Jaysyn@kbin.social 68 points 1 year ago (20 children)

Everyone point & laugh at the sad tankie in this thread.

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[–] Zrc@hexbear.net 63 points 1 year ago (5 children)

doing my duty by brigading (commenting on the number 1 post on all)

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[–] Outdoor_Catgirl@hexbear.net 62 points 1 year ago (23 children)

No shit. Western training and equipment is not fit for purpose. Acting as a colonial cop by bombing with impunity ≠ attacking the strongest defensive lines of the 21st century. All their wunderwaffe just gets blown up by mines or drones.

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