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[–] ohellidk@sh.itjust.works 134 points 1 month ago (7 children)

...And to think this guy has half the vote. What a place we live in. I wish we cared more about education. If people were smarter, we wouldn't be in this situation.

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 91 points 1 month ago

That's why Republicans have waged a war on education for decades.

[–] DeathsEmbrace@lemm.ee 43 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If people were smarter you wouldn’t have Marijuana classified as schedule 1 and you would actually have a healthcare and not some for profit private insurance scam instead.

Unfortunately you can't assume being smarter will automatically equate to empathy.

[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago

Remember that half is asleep since they can't stand anyone or anything woke.

[–] Justas@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 month ago

If 20 or more years ago, a writer wanted to write a book about USA sliding to religious dictatorship or fascism, they would create this extremely clever, very charismatic machiavellian genius.

Instead, we have a bumbling buffoon who probably can't tie his shoes in the morning, and half the people seem to worship him like a god.

[–] Arn_Thor 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Half the electoral college vote. Still maddening but let’s not forget that a shitty election system is the only thing keeping the Republicans in power now

[–] frezik@midwest.social 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If half the people weren't voting for him, the EC wouldn't be an issue.

[–] Arn_Thor 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

Depends how loose your definition of half is, I guess. Trump got 46.8% of the popular vote in 2020 vs Biden’s 51.3%.

2016: Trump 41.1% (still won) vs Clinton 48.2%. 2012: Obama 51.1% (winner) vs Romney 47.2%. 2008: Obama 52.9% (winner) vs McCain 45.7%. 2004: Bush 50.7% (winner) vs Kerry 48.3%. 2000: Bush 47.9% (still won) vs Gore 48.4%. 1996: Clinton 49.2% (winner) vs Dole 40.7% vs Perot 8.4%. 1992: Clinton 43% (winner) vs Bush 37.4% vs Perot 18.9%. 1988: Bush 53.4% (winner) vs Dukakis 45.6%. And that's as far as I could be bothered to go back.

With the exception of Bush in 2004, every Republican president since 1988 won only because of the electoral college. See the problem?

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[–] bamfic@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

Misogyny and racism are hella strong drugs

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Wasn't that long ago that we had two candidates in evident cognitive decline, and we still would except for these embarrassing incidents.

[–] shyguyblue@lemmy.world 78 points 1 month ago

I just want her to go full The Doctor on him:

"Don't you think he looks tired?"

[–] Nuke_the_whales@lemmy.world 47 points 1 month ago (1 children)

39 minutes. Stand up and try to sway and dance to random music for more than 5 minutes, now picture doing that for 39 fucking minutes lol

[–] formergijoe@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

He did a lot of standing, looking around, pointing, and giving a thumbs up

[–] makyo@lemmy.world 31 points 1 month ago

Apparently his old age is outpacing his desperation

[–] EABOD25@lemm.ee 23 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (9 children)

~~I am not a Trump supporter. However, the town hall meeting had a medical emergency, which threw the whole groove off. From all the evidence I've seen, I'll give Trump props for seeing it and calling for a doctor on stage. That was the most human thing I ever saw him do (and to be clear there are other examples of this. Not many, but they exist)~~

~~But anyway, I digress...~~

~~I suspect the 30 minutes of music was a distraction to the medical emergency and also was supposed to present him as 'fun'. I think after the emergency they just had to fill time and the whole situation just got fucked. IMO, Trump isn't to blame for that weird shit~~

Edit: I did not watch the entire town hall and have since watched it. The whole thing is an absolute shit show. I fell for the propagated clips to improve his image, but I've since learned that what I originally learned is wrong

[–] usernamesAreTricky@lemmy.ml 101 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

That's a highly misleading characterization

They only briefly paused after people fainted and then continued and changed the format to a Q&A with a speaker. Only a few questions into the Q&A he said "who wants to listen to questions" and "let's listen to music". He wrapped up making it sound like he was done, but then just stood there for 39 minutes nodding to music

The whole town hall is online, you can watch it yourself. Here’s how he spends the last 40 or so minutes https://youtu.be/bDZgox580B0?t=7447

Edit: also he showed zero respect for the people that fainted. He was insulting their weight and asked if "anyone else wants to faint too"

[–] EABOD25@lemm.ee 38 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Alright. Might have misspoke. I saw clips which I obviously fell for the propaganda

[–] usernamesAreTricky@lemmy.ml 23 points 1 month ago (1 children)

There were some misleading initial reports about it, to be fair

[–] EABOD25@lemm.ee 31 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Yeah. I could have better researched better before I commented. Also I greatly appreciate you being polite.

I also deleted the comment

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 29 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Restore it and add an edit note that you fell for the propaganda so others can learn from you too. Strike out the text if you want to be extra clear.

Own your mistakes and help everyone!

[–] EABOD25@lemm.ee 21 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Good idea. I don't know how to strike out sentences, so if you could help me with that? I'll work on restoring the comment

Edit: I actually don't know how to restore the comment

[–] usernamesAreTricky@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

For future striking out sentences use ~~ around the text ~~like this~~ to make it look ~~like this~~

Not sure if there's a way to restore comments

[–] EABOD25@lemm.ee 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] PlasticExistence@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I like you and the humility you’ve displayed here. Thanks for being a reasonable person.

[–] Fiivemacs@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 month ago

The world is being restored one conversation at a time. You're both upstanding internet anons.

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If you are using an app I have no idea, but on a browser the three dots underneath switches between Delete and Undelete. The text editor options has one to ~~strike through~~ whatever text you have already highlighted. If the strike through shows squiggles you might need to remove some spaces as they have to be right against the first and last words to work right.

[–] EABOD25@lemm.ee 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I applaud you taking one for the team!

[–] EABOD25@lemm.ee 9 points 1 month ago

I had to do it paragraph-by-paragraph. It is working now

[–] IndiBrony@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago

Sadly this is how it works. Now imagine you're one of the millions of people who absolutely wouldn't care to dive deeper into this and just argue from the rooftops that he's a brilliant person.

[–] Regrettable_incident@lemmy.world 29 points 1 month ago

Respect for admitting you got conned the first time. All of us are vulnerable to propaganda, especially people who think they're not.

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[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago (2 children)

she definitely has a bigger heart than i do. suit me if he keeled over right now

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago

It's only nice on a surface level where it shows Kamala being a nice human being, all in all it paints donald as a weak person, unfit for presidency (and highlights that he would never ever say something nice like that because he's an egoistic scumbag).

So for me it's more a smart tweet.

[–] riodoro1@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago (7 children)

Its a fucking tweet, not insight to her mind.

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[–] MidsizedSedan@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I wonder if Trump knows he is loosing, but has now lost control of his audiance. Imagine how his fans will react if he publicly stepped down...

[–] Crashumbc@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

Two problems, first he would never step down. Second his cult-like followers ain't going anywhere, they are making up stories about it being genius move.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Apparently some people are saying that Trump played music to help someone with a medical emergency or something? I dunno, that doesn't make any sense... Anyone know what the fuck that's about?

[–] usernamesAreTricky@lemmy.ml 30 points 1 month ago (3 children)

He paused after medical issues and briefly played music then, and he then resumed. A few questions in after resuming he just said "who the hell wants to listen to questions" and "let's listen to music" and proceeds to sound like he's wrapping up but he just stands there noding on stage to music for 39 minutes

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

He also joked about the people who fainted so there's that.

[–] BigBenis@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

Maybe he thought he was at his Coachella rally and was trying to compete?

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago
[–] EtherWhack@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago

If I was having a medical emergency and someone started playing Ave Maria, my immediate thought would be that I'm dying then the wonder of who did "it" to me.

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