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Hi comrades, want to give you all an informal update on the discussions around the site's misogyny problems that've been happening over the last several days. I wanna make sure you know that the admin/mod team has seen all of that discourse and we've been actively discussing solutions in the matrix mod chat. We're taking this shit very seriously and acknowledge that we haven't used a heavy enough hand on misogynistic rhetoric. As some of you saw we nuked that cheating thread from a couple weeks ago and handed out temp bans to the most egregious offenders. Idk how that was allowed to run it's course but we apologize for that oversight. We're going to do better.

We've come up with some ideas for how to improve this part of the site culture and we want to get suggestions from y'all as well, since the alarm was sounded on this by our beautiful c/traa posters to begin with. Our ideas so far include:

  1. A zero-tolerance policy towards any even remotely misogynistic/patriarchal posts or comments, as too much has slipped through the cracks on that, establishing a clear protocol for bans for violating rules against misogyny, and ideally tracking repeat offenders in a way that makes deciding a course of action easy when they reoffend.

  2. Uphold TC69 thought by starting up a book club (and hopefully more to follow) on feminist theory and encouraging mass participation, particularly from the he/him's on the site. "The Will to Change" by bell hooks has been suggested by multiple people as a great starting point but please feel free to suggest any other works.

  3. Relaunching /c/menby with a trusted educated mod team and a specific focus on countering mainstream narratives about masculinity, relationships and sex that breed reactionary, patriarchal attitudes

  4. Encouraging [namely femme] participation in /c/womenby and taking steps to revitalize that sub as an excellent source of discussion on feminism and intersectionality

  5. Holding another mod drive to get more folks into mod positions in our communities who can help weed out reactionary attitudes

  6. Encouraging users to use the report button often on any post that seems even remotely sus, with the promise that no one's going to be punished for "report abuse" for reporting posts in obvious good faith

Please let me know your thoughts on the above or any other ideas you have for making the site better, safer and more inclusive for our femme comrades. Once we've fully hammered out plans and updated policy we plan to make an announcement post highlighting these changes for the whole userbase. Thank you all for being here and being who you are feminism trans-heart

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[โ€“] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 35 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I missed the cheating thread, just read some of this one and through the modlog, and it seems...so easy not to be like this. I'm both dissapointed that this even happened, and happy to be somewhere that gives a shit enough to go hard once it did.

[โ€“] Cowbee@hexbear.net 33 points 2 months ago

It is remarkably easy to not be misogynistic

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[โ€“] pooh@hexbear.net 34 points 2 months ago

Fantastic post and it's really heartening to see such a positive response to it meow-hug

[โ€“] ReadFanon@hexbear.net 34 points 2 months ago
  1. Uphold TC69 thought by starting up a book club (and hopefully more to follow) on feminist theory and encouraging mass participation, particularly from the he/him's on the site. "The Will to Change" by bell hooks has been suggested by multiple people as a great starting point but please feel free to suggest any other works.

Audiobook available on TankieTube here

[โ€“] StalinStan@hexbear.net 33 points 2 months ago (47 children)

Just so as I am clear. What was the discourse that was going off rails so I know what kinda stuff to avoid doing in the future.

[โ€“] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 31 points 2 months ago (4 children)

https://hexbear.net/post/3558444

check modlog since most of the misogyny was removed

Actually, the thread is borderline unreadable now since almost half of the comments were making excuses

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[โ€“] Lenins_Cat_Reincarnated@hexbear.net 32 points 2 months ago (11 children)

Be afraid, he/hims biden-harbinger

These ideas sound solid

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[โ€“] GenderIsOpSec@hexbear.net 32 points 2 months ago

very cool and based cat-trans

[โ€“] HelltakerHomosexual@hexbear.net 32 points 2 months ago (5 children)
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[โ€“] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 31 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Wild to me that anyone would even come here and be misogynistic, this is one of the few safe spaces left for femmes online.

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[โ€“] the_itsb@hexbear.net 31 points 2 months ago

thank you for all your efforts Care-Comrade

[โ€“] Owl@hexbear.net 30 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (12 children)

The plan looks good, but please follow it up by reaching out to online spaces with more women and nonbinary people.

Any improvement will slowly backslide if there aren't people directly affected by the issue there to spot things, in enough numbers that nobody is getting bummed out by constantly being the one having to report stuff.

edit: this was phrased very poorly before and ashinadash was right to call me out

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[โ€“] Cowbee@hexbear.net 30 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (14 children)

Fantastic to hear! All points are great, and as a he/him the book club sounds fun and dearly needed, I'd love to participate. toriel-snooze

One idea I had was a megathread safe space like what we have for the trans and EM/POC threads, would that be something people would want? I've seen lots of love for the megas from our comrades here, but I'm a he/him so I'm staying in my lane, lol. Just an idea I had and felt would be cool, with our current demographics there would obviously be overlap with the trans mega, but the benefit of maintaining a safe space free from he/hims in a megathread form seems like it would help izutsumi-idea

We have the best mods and admins, fantastic work! heart-sickle

Side note: if anyone has seen me say reactionary misogynistic garbage on this site please tell me so I can self-crit egg-dog

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Wow. I saw that thread and was like what the fuck! I couldnโ€™t believe people were agreeing with op I didnโ€™t bother to participate and have been busy. Glad this is moving towards something more productive.

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