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[–] baronvonj@lemmy.world 132 points 1 year ago (2 children)

So .. if he could receive a call ... couldn't he make a call to someone he knows?

[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 202 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I remember reading about this. He was actually lost, in that he strayed from his trail and didn't immediately know how to return.

Rescuers were alerted because a family member had reported him missing after he didn't arrive home on time.

As the story goes, to the best of my recollection, the "lost" individual went for a hike and said they would be back before sundown. When they got lost, they obviously missed that deadline. They were biding their time in the forest until daybreak to try to find the trail to get back because it was too dark to look for it. So while he was "lost" it was mainly because the sun had gone down. He didn't feel like he was in any danger, and wasn't at any risk of immediately being harmed or killed; AFAIK they were reasonably familiar with that forest and they were more than capable of surviving in those conditions; so he had no motivation to seek help.

TL;DR: guy didn't feel like he needed help.

[–] _CottonCandyUnicorn_@lemmy.world 107 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I get that he didn't feel like he needed help. But he told his family he'd be back before sundown so wouldn't the thought to call or even text your family to let them know you're ok cross your mind? That's the part that seems strange to me.

[–] cactusupyourbutt@lemmy.world 64 points 1 year ago (1 children)

whats strange to me is that the family didnt try to reach him first

[–] KIM_JONG_JUICEBOX@lemmy.ml 19 points 1 year ago

Or why didn’t the rescuers text or leave a message?

Sounds like everyone has trouble communicating properly here. It’s like how to write a sitcom plot 101.

[–] lud@lemm.ee 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Maybe they forgot ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[–] Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Been there for sure

Just forgetting to tell family I was going to be later than I expected

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[–] idunnololz@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Yeah that part is a bit inconsiderate.

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[–] blaine@kbin.social 45 points 1 year ago (2 children)

He was probably afraid to call for help due to the insane prices the search and rescue folks charge. Might have wanted to wait another day or two to be sure he was really lost before calling for help.

[–] SuddenDownpour@sh.itjust.works 41 points 1 year ago (4 children)

due to the insane prices the search and rescue folks charge

Is this a joke or is this actually a thing in the US?

[–] Franzia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 35 points 1 year ago

Hahahaha no really the US is just a nightmare in ways you havent even thought of, yet.

[–] notacat@mander.xyz 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It’s a U.S. thing! Yay! You can buy insurance for it if you do a lot of backpacking but that’s rare. I believe it’s in the five figures for a rescue. But apparently occasionally it can be free if you’re lucky enough to get rescued by the one agency whose name I forget.

[–] Klear@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But apparently occasionally it can be free if you’re lucky enough to get rescued by the one agency whose name I forget.

MIB?

[–] Guntrigger@feddit.ch 14 points 1 year ago

Unfortunately they only come if you need to be rescued from aliens.

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[–] pedro@lemm.ee 28 points 1 year ago (3 children)

USA: die or get crippled by debt for getting saved

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[–] ox0r@jlai.lu 102 points 1 year ago (3 children)

If it's important, they'll leave a message. Otherwise it's just another scam anyway

[–] quarrk@hexbear.net 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)

“Hey, sorry to bother you, was just wondering if you were dead. Please call back at your earliest convenience.”

[–] ox0r@jlai.lu 24 points 1 year ago

Yeah right, as if I'm dumb enough to fall for that one!

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[–] Designate6361@lemmy.ml 92 points 1 year ago

As someone who does not answer unknown numbers I am laughing and also cringing

[–] LogicalDrivel@sopuli.xyz 80 points 1 year ago (3 children)

If I pick up, then they know its a real number and I get added to a hundred more lists. Its taken me years of diligently ignoring the world to get to the point where i only get a couple of spam calls a day. I might not answer, either.

[–] jackoneill@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I have 2 numbers, my direct cell that only family and close friends know, and my business line that I give out like candy. Business line is simply a virtual line that goes to an auto attendant that I this is si and so from whatever company, dial 1 to ring my cell or dial 2 to leave a voicemail. If you don’t hit a number it hangs up after 30 seconds. No more spam. Of course, some REALLY dumb clients think I’m sending them straight to voicemail because they don’t listen, but that’s it’s own kind of filter that I also appreciate

[–] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 year ago

What service is that?

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[–] c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world 63 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It has nothing to do with social fear, every fucking call on my personal and work phone is a scam.

Get that shit under control and then maybe I'll answer my cell phone once in awhile lol

Though if I was really lost I think I'd be answering every call tbh.

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[–] Surreal@programming.dev 53 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I wish people texted after failing to call me. I don't answer calls from unknown numbers either but if you know me then text me so I know it's not a spam number

[–] mkwarman@lemmy.mkwarman.com 13 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I agree, but I still have this idea that it's rude to text people unless you have gotten permission first. I think it's a relic from the 2000s-2010s when not everyone's phone had texting and if you did text them they could get charged by their phone provider. Obviously nowadays that's much less of a concern, but still feels like a social grey area for some reason

[–] die444die@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It is completely opposite to that in my circles. It would be weird to call people without texting them first. In fact, one of my best friends texted me to ask if he could call me.

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[–] danielton@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Yeah, that's an archaic mindset. Most people would rather get a text these days.

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[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 53 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The telephone network is practically useless because we don't have any authentication to it anymore.

When the phone company had to do something to physically connect a wire to a building, it was sufficient. But that I can download any number of apps that lets me war dial an entire continent pretending to be just anyone? Yeah the phone network isn't secure enough for the average user.

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

It never really was secure. You could always set the Caller ID on an outgoing PRI trunk to whatever you wanted with any of the phone systems in the last half century. It isn't validated.

[–] moonsnotreal@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Also phone phreaking existed. Just blow a whistle into the pay phone and get free calls.

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[–] Ajen@sh.itjust.works 51 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I remember this article... He went for a hike and didn't tell his roommates when he would be back. He didn't answer their calls (I'm assuming he needed some time alone), and was gone for more than 24 hours so they reported him missing. He just wanted some time away from his roommates and they put him the the national news.

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[–] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 32 points 1 year ago (1 children)

For real.

‘Unknown’ or ‘Suspected Spam’ yeah, I guess I’ll just die.

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[–] Evilphd666@hexbear.net 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Has signal.

Doesn't open map app.

[–] ArtisinalBS@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

In what imaginary world you're living that you have data in the middle of nowhere?

[–] quarrk@hexbear.net 39 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

You should have GPS without any service at all. You might need data for the map to load, depends on the app. If you’re lucky and the app automatically cached it when you had signal, or you manually downloaded the offline map, then you could navigate home in airplane mode.

All of this is moot because I think I remember reading the rest of this story. The hiker wasn’t really lost, they simply went on a hike without telling anyone, and ignored calls during that time because they were trying to unplug.

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[–] 2Password2Remember@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago

if you want me to actually respond to you, leave a message. doesn't everybody know this at this point?

Death to America

[–] jimmydoreisalefty@lemmus.org 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Should have sent an email, come on now...

[–] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"Help I'm dying please send rescue".

Well that's an odd email from January.

[–] jimmydoreisalefty@lemmus.org 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago

Lol "no. That's too formal"

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[–] PaupersSerenade@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 year ago

Something similar, if less life threatening, happened to me. My car had been stollen a while back and I avoided the random call from an area code 50+ miles away. Turns out it had been the cops from that area telling my they found my (stripped) vehicle. Impound lot ended up getting the car AND overnight parking fees. Absolute racket.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Did they not leave a fucking voicemail?

[–] The_Picard_Maneuver@startrek.website 24 points 1 year ago (5 children)

That's even worse than a call

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[–] yoz@aussie.zone 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

Why would he answer? They were probably trying to reach him about his car's extended warranty.

[–] LostDeer@infosec.pub 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This could be me lol

It is funny to be lost where you have cell service though.

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[–] duviobaz@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

Totally relatable

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