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[–] MrSoup@lemmy.zip 125 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Ddg already have this for some sites.

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[–] Blisterexe@lemmy.zip 104 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Excellent example choice lmao

[–] MrSoup@lemmy.zip 52 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

It's the best example in my opinion, because it is full of fake versions of popular piracy sites because Google hides the originals.
And it is the only site I know ddg shows certification every time.

[–] TheLugal@lemmy.world 80 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

We regularly experiment with features that help shoppers identify trustworthy businesses online[...]

I like that Google calls their users "shoppers" /s

[–] toynbee@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

To be fair, I think there is a "shopping" tab when you perform a search through them.

[–] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 42 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah that'll fix it's completely broken search.

[–] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's not broken, for google. It does exactly what they want, which is to help them gather data and manipulate people.

At work, we discussed this as a future issue in about 2000, when we saw it gaining major search share.

[–] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah we are not google. It is broken.

[–] FinalRemix@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah, but google controls the money, so we don't matter. Lol

[–] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

Yeah, we all know that. It is still broken.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 37 points 1 month ago (1 children)

inb4 they hand these out for anyone whos paying

[–] Evotech@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago

8 bucks a month

[–] bandwidthcrisis@lemmy.world 35 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Now if they could just stop putting ad results above the app you search for in the Play store.

[–] FinalRemix@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

TIL people use the play store for stuff besides just a rare update and apparently browse it...

[–] bandwidthcrisis@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago

I don't even mean browsing! Just trying to install something.

I search for "NordVPN" (because all the cool YouTubers use it!) and the first result is "Norton 360" with an install button.

It's a "sponsored result" and it's easy to install the wrong thing if you're used to it actually finding the thing you just typed in.

If I put Firefox. I get duckduckgo. Okay, maybe not so bad and pretty obvious. But I've had these things for apps that almost look like the legitimate one.

[–] ichbinjasokreativ@lemmy.world 29 points 1 month ago (1 children)

this is a good idea to hotfix a stupid problem.

[–] Sakychu@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (3 children)

And what problem would that be?

[–] chakan2@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Getting 4 sponsored links and an AI overview before I get to the search results.

It's basically all the shit Yahoo did to lose their search dominance.

[–] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Fun Fact: the current head of Google's search is the same guy that was in charge of Yahoo's search right before they folded their own search and just started licensing Bing.

[–] chakan2@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

That is hilarious. That explains a lot.

[–] Sakychu@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I can't see how a checkmark is supposed to fixes these Problems. Aren't the sponsored links not already marked as such?

[–] JohnEdwa@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

You can disable the AI stuff and other nonsense if you do a "web" search, it's in the list with images, videos etc. Theres also a thing you can add to a search url to do it - &udm=14.

[–] HootinNHollerin@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

My solution.

Their search results have been shit for about 10 years.

[–] FinalRemix@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

So who do you use? Because I haven't found a properly functional search engine in years.

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 18 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I assume SEO spam/misleading ads?

Stuff that could probably be better done by vetting advertisers and improving the search algorithm.

[–] ichbinjasokreativ@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago

Malware disguised as legitimate software getting served as ads.

Just a few months ago people were shown faked websites for obs studio when searching for the original. They should vet whose ads they're serving instead of just certifying certain corporations.

[–] PrivacyDingus@lemmy.world 26 points 1 month ago

that might be useful i guess if google hadn't shredded every tiny piece of trust we had in them

[–] recklessengagement@lemmy.world 22 points 1 month ago (2 children)

This is so stupid. God forbid they actually police their ads for malware. No, instead let's push the responsibility onto the individual, by adding get another "Papers, Please"-esque stamp that very few people will know about and even less will actually use.

Hard pass. The day I saw them promoting malware above legitimate search results is the day I turned on ad blocking for my entire org, and a stupid little pay-to-verify badge isn't going to change that.

/end rant

[–] xenoclast@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

One way they make money. One way they'd need to spend it. It's against capitalism to do the latter.

[–] Goun@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago

The "Papers, Please" comparison is perfect!

[–] potentiallynotfelix@lemdro.id 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Finally something that is a positive. This is well-needed nowadays.

[–] Badeendje@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

Why? Google should just police their results. Offering a fake Microsoft in your results means you failed providing the service you claimed to offer.

This is either pay to play.. and that means google will earn money from fraudsters. Or it will look at certificates.. just aite matches certificate.. must be good.

Decades worth of whack a mole could have been used to train an AI to actually help here.. but we made a glorified word guesser instead.

[–] Lila_Uraraka@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 month ago

Rare W from Google