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According to The Atlantic, Blinken enquired whether the Saudis could tolerate Israel periodically re-entering the territory to strike the besieged Gaza Strip.

“They can come back in six months, a year, but not on the back end of my signing something like this,” Mohammed bin Salman responded.

“Seventy percent of my population is younger than me,” the crown prince explained to Blinken.

“For most of them, they never really knew much about the Palestinian issue. And so they’re being introduced to it for the first time through this conflict. It’s a huge problem. Do I care personally about the Palestinian issue? I don’t, but my people do, so I need to make sure this is meaningful.”

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[–] MataVatnik@lemmy.world 114 points 1 month ago

Monarch (Trust fund baby on steroids) doesn't give a shit about common people, what a surprise.

[–] foggy@lemmy.world 104 points 1 month ago

"Man who hacked a journalist to pieces with 0 consequences isn't bothered by genocide."

[–] small44@lemmy.world 62 points 1 month ago (3 children)
[–] Shard@lemmy.world 26 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Frankly this is all of them.

They only care about Palestine insofar as it furthers their own political goals. Its low hanging fruit for them to stroke the religious and nationalistic fires in their people and redirect their attention away from issues like the economy and civil rights.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Maybe it's more reasonable and far less racist to blame the people actually doing the genocide rather than to blame "all of them" or "they".

[–] Pelicanen@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 month ago

When did they claim that Israel wasn't to blame? Two things can be true at the same time.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 0 points 1 month ago

I mean he's not saying anything wrong. These are US-bought governments and the US is getting their money's worth.

[–] mlg@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Might as well be Most Islamic Countries tbh.

Pakistan and Bangladesh buy spyware from Israel.

Turkey and Azerbaijan buy a lot of their arms.

Middle East in general is just screwed because it's mostly US shills.

Dunno enough about Southeast Asia or Africa, but I wouldn't be surprised if they too had ties to Israel.

I still like to think the only nation that made a proper stand was Yemen. Iran was kind of incompetent and is morally corrupt anyways. Lebanon is too fractured to have a chance of a proper leadership imo.

Only the Houthis seemed to make a dent in Israel by attacking their supply line, which did actually have an effect.

Otherwise there are plenty more non Islamic nations willing to do more.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 2 points 1 month ago

Iran was kind of incompetent and is morally corrupt anyways.

I mean Hamas, Hezbollah and the Houthis are all basically dependent on Iran. They are Iran's stand.

[–] TexMexBazooka@lemm.ee -3 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 4 points 1 month ago

Uh... No? US influence is poison.

[–] Trebuchet@lemm.ee 49 points 1 month ago

Well, duh, he's a psychopath. Why is anyone surprised by this?

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 44 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What a fuckwit. Straight up admits he’s only going with it for the sake of image and doesn’t care about actually making sure this doesn’t happen again soon.

[–] WoahWoah@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Yes isn't it obnoxious when leaders listen to their people despite their personal feelings?

[–] Sundial@lemm.ee 35 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's pretty well known this guy only cares about how many commas are in his net worth. He's not a moral or good person by any stretch of the imagination.

[–] Psychodelic@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

So do most people, at least speaking for Americans. Ignoring all other context, at least this guy gives a miniscule shit about what his people think/want. That's just like basic politics

I do have to wonder if he thinks he's in more danger of losing it all than other contemporary government leaders

[–] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 33 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Ita depressing when a Saudi prince cares more about the will of the people (at least in writing) than almost any US politician.

[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 13 points 1 month ago

Eh they know they live in a very precarious perch with a population that young and disenfranchised. It's classic authoritarian tactics to make a token nod to the masses every now and again

[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 25 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] NoNotLikeThat@lemm.ee 7 points 1 month ago

This particular Muhammad belongs in the bin. Preferably a small one that's ablaze.

[–] ColdWater@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 month ago
[–] S491@lemmy.world 21 points 1 month ago (1 children)

How far they have fallen. In the 1970s King Faisal was spearheading OPECs embargo over Israel's unjust invasions and attacks during the 6 days war, and now to see his successors spitting on the Palestinians is just disgusting.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

The successors of King Faisal are the same people who murdered King Faisal for having decent politics.

[–] S491@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

Yes you are right

[–] Nuke_the_whales@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago

Of course he doesn't. By the way America is still sending weapons to these guys (who blew up the trade center) while moralizing about sending weapons to Israel

[–] HomerianSymphony@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago

Just keep in mind, this is anonymous hearsay by someone on Blinken’s team.

And even if it’s true, they wouldn’t have leaked it to the media without some kind of agenda.

[–] recursive_recursion@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 month ago (2 children)

the previous call from Saudi Arabia for Israel to de-escalate the war seems to have been a PR stunt now

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 11 points 1 month ago

Words are cheap, and they've got fuck-you money.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 0 points 1 month ago

I mean his position is basically the same. He was asked "are you okay with X" and he said "no I'm not".

[–] Bluefalcon@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 1 month ago

Someone is on fat losing drugs. Not halal

[–] socsa@piefed.social 5 points 1 month ago

At least he's more honest than the vast majority of people engaged with this issue.

[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 month ago
[–] WoahWoah@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

All else aside, if our leaders were more like the crown prince, we wouldn't be sending more bombs to the bombers.

"I don't care personally, but my people do, so I'm doing what they ask." Meanwhile, national polling suggests a majority of Americans want to stop arming Israel while they're committing war crimes, but the overwhelming majority of our political leaders give full-throated support.

And America is, ostensibly, the democracy.

[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

Saudi's nonexistent democracy afraid of civilians using their nonexistent second amendement rights.