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AI whatever but nuclear yes pls

[–] medgremlin@midwest.social 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This is exactly what I've been advocating for. Nuclear power, especially if they lift the restrictions on fuel recycling, is the cleanest option we have besides solar and wind, and it's a technology that is fully developed and available now. Nuclear power is heavily regulated and is very safe these days, and is not reliant on rare earth metals like many solar panels still are.

[–] itslilith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You've been advocating for pointlessly wasting the output of an entire nuclear power plant during a time when an urgent decarbonization of energy is needed, to fuel the energy needs of a corporate monopoly running server farms providing a technology that's neither wanted or needed outside of niche use cases, following an online hype mixed with scams and rugpull startups that rival crypto's heydey?

[–] medgremlin@midwest.social 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

My original idea was for the AI companies to shell out for building new nuclear plants, but bringing an old one back online is a step in the right direction. I don't think the current "AI" projects are actually worth the resources they consume, but if they're going to exist, their creators should be shelling out for non-fossil fuel options to power them.

[–] freeman@feddit.org 3 points 1 day ago

Dystopisn technocracy shit

[–] Vilian@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

a yes, it's going to be so fun when enshittification hits the power plant and it start leaking radioactive water in the lake

Edit: my issue is with tech companies owning power plants, be it nuclear, oil or gas, enshittification cold fuck all of them and cause catastrophic damage, other than that nuclear power is based

[–] capital@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Safest power source per kWh. This is some boomer-ass scare mongering.

[–] Big_Boss_77@lemmynsfw.com 12 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Is the problem nuclear? Or the problem the fact that Microsoft AI bullshit needs a full ass nuclear power plant to run it?

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[–] Vilian@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I don't fear nuclear power, i fear tech companies especially those public

[–] capital@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Are you under the impression Microsoft will be running it themselves? I don't get it.

[–] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 5 points 1 day ago

The power being used to train AI models = an AI is who's going to run the power plant.

I guess??

[–] mdurell@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

They could just burn coal/oil/natural gas instead and for sure poison everything that way. Nuclear has a fighting chance.

[–] Phegan@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

As opposed to all the other non renewable sources of power cause cancer to those who live near by

[–] TriflingToad@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Vilian@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago

Don't give power plants to tech companies period lol, at least software can't fuck as many people and the environment as an oil or radioactive leak could

[–] TheHarpyEagle@pawb.social 32 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I mean... yeah this clearly sucks ass, but as a silver lining, maybe it'll rebuild interest in nuclear.

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 13 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I don't want old ass nuclear power plants. I don't want new power plants in 25 years either. I want a solar panel on every single rooftop, and diversified municipal energy storage (batteries, molten salt, geothermal, etc).

[–] A7thStone@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Old ass nuclear plants work well, and they are already built. I also want solar panels on every house, and micro turbines in every yard. How about we work with what we already know is clean and expand with new technology.

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[–] OmegaLemmy@discuss.online 9 points 1 day ago

It is new... They aren't the original ones that were decommissioned...

[–] linearchaos@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

If they want to run AI in a responsible manner I can't say that I really have any solid complaints. I prefer if they don't use it to train my entire personality into a model but it is what it is

[–] IchNichtenLichten@lemmy.world 103 points 2 days ago (16 children)

I can't wait for this AI bubble to pop.

I'm not saying that some parts of AI have utility - machine learning for medical scans will be a great thing for instance, but the "oooh new! shiny! venture capitalist, line-must-go-up" side of things can well and truly fuck off.

Exactly. I'm bullish on AI, I'm not bullish on what the mass market media calls "AI."

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[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 109 points 2 days ago (3 children)

What a waste of power. Somehow they went from "we're green tech!" to "fuck it, we need ALL the power" real quick. And for nothing.

[–] Kuvwert@lemm.ee 6 points 1 day ago

Nuclear is green

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 33 points 2 days ago (14 children)
[–] i_stole_ur_taco@lemmy.ca 16 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Don’t forget that Microsoft isn’t some dumb company trying to jump on the AI bandwagon. They’re a cloud provider and Azure provides lots of AI options.

Microsoft is one of the platforms raking in heaps of money from dumb companies trying to jump on the AI bandwagon. They’re the equivalent of the people selling MAGA shirts outside trump rallies.

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[–] SplashJackson@lemmy.ca 60 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Why can corporations own nuclear plants? Aren't they people? Can I own a nuclear plant? Or am I just stuck building additional pylons?

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 32 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

AFAIK, There's nothing that says you can't make your own nuclear power plant. Just stuff forbidding you from obtaining nuclear material. Which would make it hard to operate a power plant. But you could still make one that doesn't do anything!

[–] Quexotic@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 day ago

Reminds me of this dude that tried to make a reactor out of americium from smoke detectors.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Hahn

[–] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Strictly speaking, anyone can apply for a license to build a plant but you do need a license. The whole thing is pretty regulated.

[–] hydrospanner@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The whole thing is pretty regulated.

I feel like that's probably a good thing.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

It's stifles innovation.

/s

[–] todd_bonzalez@lemm.ee 29 points 2 days ago

Most nuclear plants are owned by corporations. Before the accident, Three Mile Island was owned and operated by Constellation Energy (now Constellation Nuclear) and EnergySolutions.

https://www.eia.gov/nuclear/reactors/ownership.php

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[–] Rozauhtuno@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] socsa@piefed.social 2 points 16 hours ago

Thank you Kanye

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