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[–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 134 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Having lost hope of things improving and surrendered to despair.

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 64 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Well that doesn't sound useful at all. How boring.

[–] Anyolduser@lemmynsfw.com 46 points 2 months ago (2 children)

It is, but teenagers and the emotionally stunted fall into it so they can feel superior.

It's basically a diet conspiracy theory. It lets adherents think they're special and have figured something out that regular people didn't. That's a lot more comforting than realizing they're just regular people because they aren't mature enough to see obscurity as a good thing.

[–] NounsAndWords@lemmy.world 31 points 2 months ago (4 children)
[–] AmidFuror@fedia.io 11 points 2 months ago

No, Donny, these men are nihilists. There's nothing to be afraid of.

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 months ago

But not the fun kind

[–] Anyolduser@lemmynsfw.com 4 points 2 months ago

Yeah, in a nutshell..

[–] OpenStars@discuss.online 16 points 2 months ago (3 children)

If a child sneaks away from home to receive a vaccine and LIVES, despite every action taken by their parents/grandparents generation to attempt to prevent their receiving such "necessary" healthcare provisions... then I am not going to blame the child for being depressed about the very real, very scary, very tragic predicament that they find themselves in.

Trump almost won, he may win again, and this time he said (there is video evidence of him doing it) that it will be the last time that anyone needs to vote, ever again; or in the UK Brexit has already happened, and there's no coming back from that, especially as the more time passes - the UK is simply out of the loop now, and falls further so with every year that passes (even if they rejoin now, who will manage to "forget" what happened before? like an abusive husband, they revealed who they are).

And don't even get me started on the issue of the kid diddling - a couple years ago a huge scandal involving I think it was thousands of pastors in the southern Baptist organizations across mostly the southern states in the USA, and as always, more than it happening the scandal was the cover-ups afterwards.

What is wrong with you if you think that their depression is a by-product of their "immaturity"? Unlike the olds who are willing to look the other way as their literal children are being physically raped, and worse yet society itself crumbling apart, with democracy hanging by a subjective thread, they at least are willing to READ SOMETHING - a book, an article, or watch the actual debate where Trump blabbers like a child at how big his crowd sizes are, and how toilets don't flush as well anymore, etc., then goes off on a tangent about people wanting to eat cats and dogs or whatnot. Plus, has anyone looked outside at the weather in the last month...?

"gee golly willickers, I sure would like to be moar like Russia, boy-howdy!" /s

Age isn't a magic wand that should decide any argument, either pro or con; rather, upholding standards of factual TRUTH should be the goal. imho at least, so sadly I am literally in the minority here, as measured by the electoral college at least. But I will agree with you insofar as it is a fucking tragedy that kids, sometimes literal toddlers, somehow know more than the older generations that have the entirety of the internet to call upon, yet refuses to read anything that doesn't get pushed onto them by someone with an agenda to do so FaceBook - indeed there is a lot of "immaturity" involved here, though I am not prepared to blame the youths, rather than the olds who quite frankly should have known better, having a lifetime of experience to draw upon but willfully deciding to ignore all of that in favor of "comfort" (yet nonetheless, still willing to go out and perform a vote that will end up killing some of their kids).:-(

[–] Anyolduser@lemmynsfw.com 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Age and maturity are not the same thing.

Growing old is mandatory, growing up is optional.

[–] OpenStars@discuss.online 2 points 2 months ago (4 children)

growing "old" is also optional too

- some people, sadly

(e.g. Putin, and anyone listening to his propaganda, whether they realize it or not)

[–] Anyolduser@lemmynsfw.com 4 points 2 months ago (4 children)

I'm not entirely certain you're thinking straight. You're coming off a little unhinged.

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[–] Carrolade@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

Yeah, not particularly fun, either. Would be very convenient if you were looking for an excuse to never bother with anything though.

[–] doggle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, it's a pretty deep pit of depression. I suspect most people who consider themselves blackpilled are clinically depressed. Not at all useful. But then again, neither is being judgmental of them.

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[–] ContrarianTrail@lemm.ee 51 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

These terms are usually used when talking about the dating scene and they originate from the movie Matrix where taking the blue pill means you'll stay blissfully ignorant where as red pill means seeing the harsh reality of the world. In dating contex this usually means the idea that women only want rich and high status men who are over 6 feet tall, muscular and have a huge dick and if you want a quality mate you need to achieve these things one way or another.

Black pill just takes this one step further. It's basically like going from determinism to fatalism meaning that since you didn't win the genetic lottery there's nothing you can do about it so just accept the fact that this is going to be your life untill you die.

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

So blackpilled = incelpilled?

[–] ContrarianTrail@lemm.ee 6 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Well not really. Those are different things. Black pill is about how you think, while incel is about what you are.

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 17 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Incels are defined by how they think, not what they are.

[–] ContrarianTrail@lemm.ee 11 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (10 children)

Depends on which definition you go by, I guess. I prefer the literal meaning of the word; involuntary celibate. A person who is celibate against their own will.

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[–] Asidonhopo@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Arguably blackpilled folks are less problematic than incels since they have given up looking and perhaps developed a better attitude toward women (paradoxically) while incels hold a shred of toxic hope that their tradwife will swoop in and save them and that hope eats them alive. Note: I am not a scholar of either community's worldview

[–] mynameisigglepiggle@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

I had only just learned the term but I'm probably a black pill, and it's different.

My wife and I are having trouble, and divorce is on the table.

When she asked about what am I going to do? I said I don't intend to ever get into another relationship. Apparently that was more hurtful than trying to replace her... Go figure.

I've had enough relationships in my time to know they are all pretty much the same, and I think I will be better off just not with anyone else. I'm sure my patterns play into these dynamics, but I try my best to be a good partner and I think I'm just better spending that energy on supporting myself in the time I have left.

I have kids and don't want to put any pressure on them (IE I'm careful that I don't want them to be my emotional support), but hopefully that will allow me to feel enough connection as I descend into hermithood.

[–] Ledivin@lemmy.world 38 points 2 months ago (3 children)

____pilled is a mindset. Black is depressed, given up, etc.

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 21 points 2 months ago (5 children)

What's the pill color for "eh, it could be worse"?

[–] Snowclone@lemmy.world 33 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I've been burnt (sienna'd) b4

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago

I nominate beigepilled.

[–] Dasnap@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'd argue that isn't really 'pilled' at all, as I'd say 'pill' ideology requires some level of caring one way or the other, but I assume someone somewhere has assigned a color.

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

Gen Z loves their labels, I'm sure someone has designated it

[–] boatswain@infosec.pub 6 points 2 months ago

I'm thinking olive.

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[–] cobysev@lemmy.world 16 points 2 months ago

The common lingo originated from the movie The Matrix, where Neo was given the choice of taking the red pill and waking up in the real world, or taking the blue pill and staying in the fake fantasy that was his life.

4chan adopted the term and started calling themselves "redpilled," claiming that they were removed from the happy fantasy promoted in popular culture (wife, kids, decent job, etc.) and could see life for the harsh, cruel reality it truly was.

The mindset spread to Reddit where a community popped up (r/theRedPill), espousing sexual strategies for men in a society where they felt sex was highly unattainable for their gender. It turned into a very misogynistic subreddit, hating on women who "could get laid anytime" and didn't respect the plight of men who struggled for simple affection from the opposite gender.

Being "redpilled" took on a negative connotation, turning into a darker, conservative term to support men's struggles in life while at the same putting down women. Its original meaning has been corrupted into a warped idealism for men. One could argue it's promoting the opposite of its origin; fighting to create a fantasy world for men to flourish without effort instead of introducing them to the reality that their struggles are all self-inflicted and needed hard work, patience, and determination to overcome.

The term became well enough recognized that "_____-pilled" started introducing other concepts of being introduced to harsh truths in the world. In this case, blackpilled, meaning to give in to despair and depression in an uncaring, cruel world.

[–] Mango@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (9 children)
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[–] Okokimup@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

It has to do with going alt-right. Elle Reeve wrote a book about it. If you prefer video, she did an interview with Adam Conover.

[–] magnetosphere@fedia.io 3 points 2 months ago

Looking at these comments, I’ll just file it under “terms to avoid”.

[–] DarkThoughts@fedia.io 2 points 2 months ago (3 children)

It means someone's being some incel loser.

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