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Really you don't need to read more than one chart:

If you vote for anyone other than Harris, you're voting for Trump:

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[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 15 points 6 days ago

Funny how third parties always rear their heads at election time but remain almost entirely quiet the rest of the term. Where does the money come from?

[–] taiyang@lemmy.world 18 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I feel like the most viable path to a third party at this point:

  1. Ranked choice somehow becomes national law (and while we're at it, other election reform)

yes, already very unlikely here, although it'd help Dems with reelection so under them it's possible if they get rid of the filibuster. Gop would never. 2) Splinters make a better third party, I'm thinking the "RINO"s or MAGA folk. Maybe the progressive wing of Democrars. The current third parties are pretty bad as they are given they don't seem to target places they could actually win. 3) Said faction gets more traction and the model gets tested for a few elections until it's more normal. New paries emerge, etc.

It ain't happening mostly cause of 1, either because the political capital would be too expensive or because it's not ultimately in their interest. The only way 1 can happen is if it becomes a major issue and they've got much more lower hanging fruit, even in election rules (I'd be happy just having electrical college changed to popular vote).

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 10 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

National Election Reform would be great, but that would require we actually have national elections, which we don't. :)

It's not even a matter of 50 state elections... each election precinct is essentially it's own little fiefdom at this point, with officials who BELIEVE they're free to say "I aint gonna certify!" even if the State Secretary of State will put the screws to them if they do.

[–] Breezy@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago

Holy shit you're so right on all the districts being treated like a fiefdom. I like to think i keep up with politics but this idea has never crossed my mind. Im going to be looking at my local elections closer now.

[–] LordCrom@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago

Quick some body run as a super conservative as a third party and take away some GOP votes please.

[–] jpreston2005@lemmy.world 7 points 6 days ago

Joe Biden’s victory in the 2020 election was not due to any erosion in support for Donald Trump. Rather, not only did Trump’s raw vote total increase, but in the key states of Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and Michigan, Trump’s share of the vote actually increased.

Still mind-boggling and a source of great personal disgust while being a national disgrace. One can only hope that enough people have soured on him since then, after countless displays of racism, xenophobia, sexism, authoritarianism, bigotry, and incompetence. A twice impeached loser felon grifter that's clearly a russian asset should not stand a chance, yet here we are. Makes me sad.

Between the people trying to give you healthcare and secure your job, and the people trying to let your miscarrying wife bleed out in the parking lot of a for-profit hospital, some morons prefer the latter. Why? "because he's racist like me!" seems to be the deciding factor. Yes, that is why my parents are voting for him. and my mom is a poll-worker 🤦‍♂️

[–] Shanedino@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago

Florida 2020 graph is not visually accurate.

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