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An international (English speaking) socialist Lemmy community free of the "ML" influence of instances like lemmy.ml and lemmygrad. This is a place for undogmatic and constructive discussion from a progressive, anti-capitalist and truly anti-imperialist perspective, regardless of specific ideology.

A certain knowledge of socialism is expected, if you are new to/interested in socialism, please visit c/Socialism101 before participating here. Socialism101 will gladly help you by answering questions, providing resources etc.

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1. Socialist Unity in the form of mutual respect and good faith discussion is enforced here.

Try to keep an open mind, other schools of thought may offer points of view and analyses you haven't considered yet. Also: This is not a place for the Idealism vs. Materialism or rather Anarchism vs. Marxism debate(s), for that please visit c/AnarchismVsMarxism

2. Anti-Imperialism means recognizing capitalist states like Russia and China as such,

as well as condemning (their) imperialism, even if it is of the "anti-USA" flavour.

3. No liberalism, (right-wing) revisionism or reactionaries.

That includes so called: Social Democracy, Democratic Socialism, Dengism, Market Socialism, Patriotic Socialism, National Bolshevism, Anarcho-Capitalism etc. . Anti-Socialist people and content have no place here, as well as the variety of "Marxist"-"Leninists" seen on lemmygrad and more specifically GenZedong (actual ML's are welcome as long as they agree to the rules and don't just copy paste/larp about stuff from a hundred years ago).

4. No Bigotry.

The only dangerous minority is the rich.

5. Don't demonize previous and current socialist experiments or (leading) individuals.

We must constructively learn from their mistakes, while acknowledging their achievements and recognizing when they have strayed away from socialist principles.

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Notable achievements in all spheres of society were made by various socialist/people's/democratic republics around the world. Mistakes, however, were made as well: bureaucratic castes of parasitic elites - as well as reactionary cults of personality - were established, many things were mismanaged and prejudice and bigotry sometimes replaced internationalism and progressiveness.

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(This is not a definitive list, the spirit of the other rules still counts! Eventual duplicates with other rules are for emphasis.)

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[–] LifeGivesYouLemmys@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

196 Posts 1.23K Comments Joined 1 month ago

Your post/comment volume is through the roof, most of your posts and comments are heavily downvoted, but you're still going strong.

~15 posts in the past 24 hours alone. A notable increase from previous days.

[–] UniversalMonk@lemmy.world -2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Your post/comment volume is through the roof, most of your posts and comments are heavily downvoted, but you’re still going strong.

Correct. Thank you for keeping the stats. They're public, but yeah if you wanna make posts about it, you can. I don't mind.

The worshippers of the duopoly are getting real mad, aren't they? I’m not here to win a popularity contest or count upvotes like they're some validation from the system I oppose.

People can downvote all they want—I’ll keep pushing, louder than ever, for socialism, for the working class, supporting all who want to break the duopoly, for real change. I’ll keep talking about socialist causes, every single day, no matter how many downvotes people throw at me. This fight doesn't end because a few folks are uncomfortable with the truth.

In fact, I'll take a screenshot of our conversation right now, and post it around, so people can see what's being said. :)

[–] LifeGivesYouLemmys@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I’m not here to win a popularity contest or count upvotes

What are you here to do then?

They’re public, but yeah if you wanna make posts about it, you can

... and?

I’ll take a screenshot of our conversation right now

Kind of a weird threat.

[–] UniversalMonk@lemmy.world -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

What are you here to do then?

To post articles I find interesting. Like everyone else does.

Kind of a weird threat.

Wasn't a threat at all. I was saying as a point of pride. What's weird is that you would see that as a threat. Why? Because you are afraid that the corrupt capitalist duopoly that you worship is being questioned? So you wanna keep that confusion going, don't ya?

[–] LifeGivesYouLemmys@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I have never seen another user "post articles [they] find interesting", get a constant stream of hate all day, and just pretend that isn't happening. It's not normal behavior. Humans want to be accepted. Most people are on Lemmy because they find something in common with others here, not because they want to draw hatred.

Yeah buddy, you're so right. The fact that I think it's weird you're telling me you're going to screenshot my messages means something something duopoly. You're not really the best at coherent points, are you?

[–] UniversalMonk@lemmy.world -1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I have never seen another user “post articles [they] find interesting”, get a constant stream of hate all day, and just pretend that isn’t happening.

When have I ever pretended that it isn't happening? I know it's happening. I just choose to not let it affect me. At all.

Humans want to be accepted.

I'm accepted by plenty. Lemmy haters and downvoters have zero impact on my real life.

Yeah buddy, you’re so right.

Thank you! Keep trying to sow doubt and confusion, friend. It's not working. We can see what you're doing.

Do you feel good that you downvoted an article about overworked nurses demanding better working conditions?

[–] LifeGivesYouLemmys@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I know it’s happening. I just choose to not let it affect me. At all.

That's the bizarre part.

Lemmy haters and downvoters have zero impact on my real life.

But spending hours a day doing what you do here absolutely does. A normal person would only ever spend the time if they didn't get constant hate in exchange.

So you've tried to slither out of it but it didn't work. You explained nothing whatsoever about your motives. Which require explanation unless your goal is for people to assume they are bad.

[–] UniversalMonk@lemmy.world -1 points 1 week ago (2 children)

That’s the bizarre part.

No, it's bizarre that you seem to care about upvotes and downvotes so much that you think it's strange that others do not. You need to get out more, friend.

But spending hours a day doing what you do here absolutely does.

Hours?! How long do you think it takes to post an article? Have you ever posted one? dude, it's cut and paste a title. Then the link. Takes 5 seconds. And replying to trolls takes even less time.

I mean, maybe YOU spend hours doing that kind of stuff, but not me.

You explained nothing whatsoever about your motives. Which require explanation unless your goal is for people to assume they are bad.

I don't owe you any explanation at all. I say what I feel like saying, when I feel like saying it. I am under no obligation to do anything for you. The duopoly really has you under their thumb I guess. Not me. I know what freedom is.

Oh and by the way, I posted another couple of articles, so update the stats you keep about me. lmao

[–] LifeGivesYouLemmys@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Lol way to dodge again. You talk about downvotes as if the hundreds of negative comments are meaningless. Neither are, for a mentally healthy person, hate is hate.

You have spent a fuck load of time, stop pretending. Dozens of comments an hour, many posts a day. No one is fooled.

I just plainly said you only owe an explanation if you want your motivation to make sense. Apparently your wish is for everyone to assume you're up to something sinister.

update the stats you keep about me

This is going to shock you, but copying and pasting text from a web page is not the same thing as keeping a diary about disingenuous terminally online trolls who suddenly post even more after the presidential debate.

[–] UniversalMonk@lemmy.world -2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

You talk about downvotes as if the hundreds of negative comments are meaningless

They are to me. But seems like you put lots of weight into online opinions. Ok, have fun with that. lol

You have spent a fuck load of time, stop pretending. Dozens of comments an hour, many posts a day. No one is fooled.

Apparently you are fooled. Because I don't spend that much time. How much do you think it takes to post an article? I laid it out for you. Is it that hard to understand for you? You know what? Maybe it would take you hours and hours to do it, I guess.

just plainly said you only owe an explanation of you want your motivation to make sense.

I don't owe you an explanation for anything. I can do what I want and post what I want.

is not the same thing as keeping a diary about disingenuous terminally online trolls who suddenly post even more after the presidential debate.

What?! You keep a fucking diary about me?! Ewwwww. Dude! That's gross. Seek help. Yuck.

[–] LifeGivesYouLemmys@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Based on very conservative estimates, you've spent almost a full 8 hour work day in a month. Posting more than 3 times every waking hour. Yeah, no biggie. Very normal to do that and be hated for it by nearly everyone.

[–] UniversalMonk@lemmy.world -2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Very normal to do that and be hated for it by nearly everyone.

Again, even though YOU seemed to be really concerned what Lemmy posters think of you, I do not. lmao

And be sure to smile to yourself that you downvoted an article about overworked nurses demanding better working conditions!

[–] LifeGivesYouLemmys@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 week ago (2 children)

You’ve spent almost a full 8 hour work day in a month. What happened to denying you spent much time? Gish-fucking-gallop.

[–] UniversalMonk@lemmy.world -2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Hey, so what's it like being a stalker that keeps diaries about a total stranger that they only know through Lemmy?

LIke do you think about me all the time, or just when you sit down to add to your little diary. Do you have weird fantasies about me that you put in there? i mean, I guess you are incel and that's what you decided to do because you couldn't find a guy or girl to date you?

How many other people do you keep a diary on? Please please please tell us!

[–] LifeGivesYouLemmys@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

What's it like to use a website to post content 3 times per waking hour per month? I think this is clearly an addiction at that point. Addiction to criticism?

[–] UniversalMonk@lemmy.world -3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I don't know what you mean? So in the diary you keep about me, does this conversation get added to it, or is it like your own made up conversations? What's it like being sooo weird?

[–] LifeGivesYouLemmys@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Real hard to click a link: https://lemmy.ml/u/UniversalMonk@lemmy.world

Should be easy for someone posting content 3 times an hour for every hour they aren't sleeping.

[–] UniversalMonk@lemmy.world -2 points 1 week ago (2 children)

We know that's not the diary you are keeping on me. Seriously dude, go out and get a life.

You're just a creepy incel on here, but you can actually have a real life outside of Lemmy. Try it.

[–] LifeGivesYouLemmys@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Says the person who literally worked a part time job posting bullshit that gets nothing but hate in response.

[–] UniversalMonk@lemmy.world -3 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] LifeGivesYouLemmys@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] UniversalMonk@lemmy.world -3 points 1 week ago
[–] LifeGivesYouLemmys@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

So do you think if you keep raving about a diary, it becomes true? lol

Same way it becomes true that voting against Democrats won't result in death and destruction around the globe if you say it 3 times per hour your whole life?

[–] UniversalMonk@lemmy.world -3 points 1 week ago

I don't have to explain anything to you. Be sure to write that down in your diary about me! Thank you!

[–] UniversalMonk@lemmy.world -2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

So 8 hours out of a month. And you think that’s a lot? I don’t understand what you are saying. That’s 2 hours a week. So you think that is way too much time or way too little time? I’m not sure what you mean.

But hey, doesn’t really matter, because I can do whatever I want. Tho I’m not a creeper like you. I mean, dude, you keep diaries about me. That’s so weird. I guess I have to keep all these posts for the FBI now?!

[–] LifeGivesYouLemmys@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Of course it is a lot. So is posting/commenting every 20 minutes you're awake. But sure let's just pretend it's not.

[–] UniversalMonk@lemmy.world -2 points 1 week ago

But you are doing that right now. And you also keep a diary on me. Ewwwww. So are you a full on stalker, or do I take up thoughts in your mind just part of the day?

[–] LifeGivesYouLemmys@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

My totally creepy diary on you is located here: https://lemmy.ml/u/UniversalMonk@lemmy.world

198 Posts

1.24K Comments

Joined 1 month

If it took only 10 seconds to post each time, and 20 seconds to make a comment, that means you have spent:

(198 * 10) + (1240 * 20) = 26780 seconds

Or, 7.44 hours, in one month. That's almost 5% the amount of time people spend working full time. Almost a full work day. And these are extremely generous estimates that assume you are very fast. I have no doubt you have spent minutes responding to some of the comments calling you out.

To calculate the number of times you submitted content per waking hour:

(198 + 1240) / (16 * 30) = 3

Or once every 20 minutes on average, assuming you sleep. But again, yeah it fully makes sense that you would work nearly an entire work day per month, getting nothing but bile in return, because you "find articles interesting". Almost every single one promoting third party candidates. Yep you've convinced me. Totally and completely not sus, at all. Not even a little bit.

[–] UniversalMonk@lemmy.world -2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Hmmm, so how do you think I would make a living then? I mean, since you know so much and all.

And dude, you admitted to keeping a diary about me. Do you realize how weird you are being?! Ewwww...

[–] LifeGivesYouLemmys@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You’ve spent almost a full 8 hour work day in a month. Suddenly now that's not important. Hmmm.

[–] UniversalMonk@lemmy.world -2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

So 8 hours out of a month. And you think that's a lot? I don't understand what you are saying. That's 2 hours a week. So you think that is way too much time or way too little time? I'm not sure what you mean.

But hey, doesn't really matter, because I can do whatever I want. Tho I'm not a creeper like you. I mean, dude, you keep diaries about me. That's so weird. I guess I have to keep all these posts for the FBI now?!

[–] LifeGivesYouLemmys@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Three times per waking hour. Totally healthy and nothing to even notice.

[–] UniversalMonk@lemmy.world -2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

You keep a diary on me. Do you think I am going to take anything you say seriously?! You are a weird obsessed stalker. LMAO You're a joke, man. Like literally a joke. And incel who keeps a diary on a person you don't even know. Do you know how weird you are?

Like seriously, I wanna know. Do you think to yourself about how weird you are, or is just the other people that tell you that? I mean, you admitted you keep a diary about me. Do you know how weird that is?! lol

[–] LifeGivesYouLemmys@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This is all what a toddler would do.

[–] UniversalMonk@lemmy.world -2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Better to be a toddler than a stalker, dude. Log off and go get a girlfriend or a boyfriend or something. Cuz man, you have issues.

You are taking this online stuff WAY too seriously and getting way too worked up about it.

Dude I posted a socialist article to a socialist community. Why are even here if you are not a socialist?

Did you even realize what community you are posting in or were you too blinded by just following me around and tracking down my posts?!

And dude, don't go around stalking and doing stats on a poster on Lemmy. It's weird, man.

I don't know you. You don't know me. You have fucking zero effect on my life. I have fucking zero effect on your life.

You need to go outside and get a social life. Seriously.

[–] LifeGivesYouLemmys@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Says the person posting three times every hour

[–] UniversalMonk@lemmy.world -2 points 1 week ago

Oh another statistic! Keep going. Hey I'm posting some more article. Put it in your diary!