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FORMULA 1 HEINEKEN DUTCH GRAND PRIX 2023

Circuit stats
First Grand Prix 1952
Number of laps 72
Lap record 1:11.097 Lewis Hamilton (2021)
2022 winner Max Verstappen

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[–] Gsicht@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago (5 children)

What a horrible weekend for Charles.

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[–] narc0tic_bird@lemm.ee 21 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Wet tires will probably never be used (unless enforced), even if the conditions are clearly full wet.

Teams are so greedy with staying on the inters so that even if some drivers pit for full wets, the race will inevitably be red flagged because someone staying on the inters will crash, which then makes you look silly for pitting for full wets a lap or two earlier.

Granted that they reinstated the positions of the previous lap so Perez is actually fine, but let Zhou crash one lap later and Red Bull would've been punished with Perez for doing the right thing for safety and to try and keep the race going.

[–] brain_in_a_jar@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I call the full wets "red flag tyres" cos we never see them on a car during a race for more than a lap without a red flag

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[–] Nighed@sffa.community 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think everyone agrees with that, apparently even perelli have called it the safety car tire....

I think the best suggestion was to make a much better tire between the two if they can - that reduced the amount of tires they are lugging around too.

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When Alpine gets on the podium

[–] lazycouchpotato@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

Max on radio: πŸ˜ƒ

Alonso on radio:πŸ˜πŸ˜€

Gasly on radio: 😁😁😁😁🀯🀯🀯🀯😎😎😎

[–] DarylDutch@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Speaking as a dutchie. There really is no crowd better than the dutch at setting a great mood. Especially in bad weather.

[–] Microw@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Was it the Dutch GP where there were allegations of sexual harassment last year? Or was that somewhere else? I dont quite remember

[–] DarylDutch@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Apparently so. I didn't know about his but just read up on it. 15 cases quite bad. They stepped up measures this year. Hopefully there are no cases this year however we won't know till after.

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[–] GeneralEmergency@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

VER PER ALO

Nature is healing.

[–] IamAnonymous@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Why are they so obsessed about the Max-Perez pit stop. It wouldn’t matter, Max would pass Perez in a couple of laps anyways. He got the gap down from 10 to 2.5 sec.

[–] espentan@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

I don't get it either.. They gave Perez inters first, dragged him up to the front, then Max got softs first, giving him back the lead.

They just saved Perez the embarrassment of getting passed by Max on track. Max is 6 seconds ahead already, for crying out..

[–] SatouKazuma@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

It's absolutely insane. Verstappen is on another plane of existence this season.

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[–] WatTyler@lemmy.sdf.org 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)
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[–] PinkOwls@feddit.de 11 points 1 year ago (10 children)

For those who are complaining: Jules Bianchi died under similar conditions in Suzuka 2014.

[–] Durotar@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If anything, it took too much time to red flag the race. Zhou was in a very dangerous position.

[–] Nighed@sffa.community 4 points 1 year ago

If everyone had been on full wets then it would have been fine behind the safety car, but they don't pit because they expect a red flag. Catch 22

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[–] t_jpeg@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Merc nightmare of a strategy, wow.

[–] SatouKazuma@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (4 children)

How did they get things so, so wrong?

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[–] starlord2014@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 year ago

That slowmo of the redbull pit stop was incredible

[–] hagelslager@feddit.nl 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

According to Dutch social media the DJ started his Red Flag set with a song about "raining beer".

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[–] Luvs2Spuj@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

The fact they booked a live singer for the Dutch anthem shows a lot of confidence. Not that the confidence is misplaced of course.

[–] hagelslager@feddit.nl 7 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Whatever weather god: ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED?

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[–] Motecuhzoma@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Sargeant’s going to pull out a picnic basket lol

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[–] hagelslager@feddit.nl 7 points 1 year ago

F1TV has been referencing memes throughout the broadcast, the cooldown room was announced as "time for the podcast".

[–] hagelslager@feddit.nl 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Crowd singing along to "Que Sera, Sera", the DJ is on point.

[–] DarylDutch@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] espentan@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Compare the atmosphere here to e.g. Abu Dhabi, quite the difference.

Man if I ever have enough money to go to an F1 race then I'm definitely going to the Dutch Grand Prix

[–] hagelslager@feddit.nl 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] espentan@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (5 children)
[–] Nighed@sffa.community 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Yeh, it's good to not penalise teams for switching cars to the safer tire

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[–] dimspace@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

For anyone wondering.

Most pit stops in an F1 race, 88, 2011 Hungarian Grand Prix

we are at 35-36 so far if my maths is right

edit: 35, confirmed on-screen. need another shower to give a chance of the record :D

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[–] dimspace@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Man, Williams have utterly screwed the pooch this weekend.

If Albon had pitted for inters like everyone else he potentially would have been on the podium going into the second lot of rain.

Then with the second lot of rain they leave him out too long again and kick him down from 6th to 9th which they compound by putting him on inters when its clear full wets

Then they get him stuck in the damn pits.

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[–] alphacyberranger@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Guys, you may track the race from this site as well. https://f1-dash.vercel.app/ . This was created by a fellow lemmy user.

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[–] SatouKazuma@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Absolute disaster for Tsunoda. Couldn't have imagined the race going any worse for Yuki if I tried.

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[–] espentan@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] Nighed@sffa.community 5 points 1 year ago (4 children)

They are giving max priority over Perez? Oof

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Absolute wild race so far.

[–] hagelslager@feddit.nl 5 points 1 year ago

Ponchos and raincoats reported in the crowd at the start/finish.

[–] PurpleSheeple@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Restart in 10 min. I hope everyone will keep it whole

[–] Nighed@sffa.community 4 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Albon is overtaking on 23 lap old softs 😯

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[–] dimspace@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Jesus christ that rain came from somewhere :o

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[–] DarylDutch@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Thankfully he got it back quick

[–] dmonzel@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Did a damn good job making up for it, though.

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