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Libs: "THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO QUESTION THAT THERE'S GENOCIDE IN XINJIANG, AND IF YOU DARE TO BRING UP THE LACK OF EVIDENCE OF ANY SORT OF ABUSE FOR THE PAST 3 YEARS YOU'LL GET BANNED!!!!"

Also libs: "Didn't you know that 15k of the 40k humans murdered in Gaza were actually terrorists? it-is-known Also, lots of civilians die in wars like the one happening in Gaza, it's sad but inevitable"

smuglord

Fuuuuuuuuuck this shit.

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[–] lil_tank@hexbear.net 108 points 2 weeks ago

I saw the exact same thing happening on TV. There was a Palestinian member of the french left who was interviewed as a candidate for European elections and I kid you not the interview went like :

  1. Journalist repeatedly denies that there's a genocide in Gaza, interviewee cites international law and evidence to defend that there's a genocide in Gaza
  2. Journalist brings up that her party abstained on recognising the "genocide" in Xinjiang. Interviewee cites international law and simply say she's still very concerned yada yada. Journalist repeatedly scolds her about it

If any lib in the wall needed further proof that the west, through their media, is never serious about human rights and only instrumentalises them

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 97 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)
[–] Thallo@hexbear.net 57 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Have you considered that the UN has buckled to Chinese pressure? Just like the WHO and all the other things I don't like?

[–] NPa@hexbear.net 51 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)
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[–] lil_tank@hexbear.net 57 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Still spamming that "human rights abuse" button to death they seem to still be persuaded that teaching jobs is torture

[–] kittin@hexbear.net 68 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Lmao I remember that, the accusations that giving women access to free higher education and vocational training was cultural genocide because now the women would have the financial independence to choose if they wanted to live according to traditional social rules or not

Edit: and the time that giving school kids free school lunches was cultural genocide because Muslims fast during Ramadan - and the western libs revealed they aren’t at all connected to Uyghur culture in which children under 14 usually don’t fast anyway.

[–] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 60 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It's because westerners don't see Muslims as human, so liberating people from reactionary ideals is seen as destroying the only way they see Muslims as acting (being conservative fundamentalists)

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[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 63 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

I'm not going to pretend China wasn't heavy handed and that there's stuff to criticise in there but the outcome is way fucking better than the western approach to islamic extremism. No deaths to speak of and the extremism ended completely. Compared to the western approach of incarceration and bombing it works 1000x better.

[–] vovchik_ilich@hexbear.net 51 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

Thing is, the debate never was about whether the reeducation camps were excessive, it's about genocide. People still believe the unsubstantiated claims of mass sterilisation, people still believe that the Uyghur culture is being destroyed (the other day someone posted a video of the youtube channel Little Chinese Everywhere visiting Xinjiang which clearly shows otherwise)... It's extremely sad how, after 3+ years of no new claims because there isn't even any way to make up evidence anymore, people still believe there's an ongoing genocide

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[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 90 points 2 weeks ago (10 children)

Also, lots of civilians die in wars like the one happening in Gaza, it’s sad but inevitable”

But when you tell them Ukraine war is probably the least deadly for civilian* wars in last over century with military to civilian deaths ratio being like 50 to 1 they will get incredibly mad.

*From 2022 when ukronazi army got pushed from most of Donbas, in 2014-feb.2022 majority of victims were civilians in Donbas.

[–] UmbraVivi@hexbear.net 55 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

They'll say it's because Ukraine are wholesome 100 Marvel heroes who protect their people while Hamas uses human shielderinos.

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[–] Aquilae@hexbear.net 75 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Average LW interaction

And damn they really did a genocide denial in the same comment they attacked you for supposedly doing the same. Amazing.

[–] a_little_red_rat@hexbear.net 63 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I saw an LW thread about China yesterday and everytime somebody said something even mildly positive about China, some smuglord posted "two questions: is the Tiananmen massacre real and are Uyghurs genocided?" and when people discarded the questions as irrelevant, they posted some le epic reddit debate win reply. LW is worse than reddit I swear to god lol

[–] sharedburdens@hexbear.net 61 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

It's worse than reddit because it's full of people desperately trying to recreate the reddit site culture that resulted from the largest traffic souces being US military bases, while using a platform that's clearly overrun with communists

[–] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 42 points 2 weeks ago

clearly overrun with communists

And made by communists, too!

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[–] lorty@lemmygrad.ml 61 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

You can literally go on tiktok right now and see how many zionist war crimes as you can stomach, and yet I can't find a single instance of anything anywhere of Xinjiang. Libs just think what MSM tells them to think.

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[–] ElChapoDeChapo@hexbear.net 56 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Wish I could load every lib who love ukkkraine into a giant cannon and fire them directly onto the frontline

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they think the rest of the world is dumb

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