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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/19853836

by Jake Johnson

Aug 30, 2024

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[–] OrnluWolfjarl@lemmygrad.ml 29 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

As always, Sanders will be approached, he will fold and withdraw the proposal. After all, he can't make sad his "good friend" Joe Biden.

[–] MarxMadness@lemmygrad.ml 20 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

"I'll believe it when I see it" is a better response than assuming he won't actually do this, or patting him on the back before he does.

[–] Idliketothinkimsmart@lemmygrad.ml 19 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Resolution gets dropped or resolution is voted against. It's not a leap to assume these parlor tricks will end the same way as they always have.

[–] Xiisadaddy@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 2 weeks ago

id bet money that he explicitly got permission to do this and they already known exactly how every member will vote on the resolution and that it will fail. Theyll probably allow members in districts with high muslim populations to vote for it so they can say they "tried"

[–] Sodium_nitride@lemmygrad.ml 16 points 2 weeks ago

Israel is too important to American interests for the American ruling elite to simply let this happen though.

[–] OrnluWolfjarl@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

At this point, Sanders is a psyop meant to sheepherd leftists and left-leaning people into the Democratic Party. There's absolutely no reason to give him the benefit of the doubt.

On the contrary, there's very good reason to expose him for what he is. And based on the past, either he withdraws the proposal, or he changes it to make it milktoast. The only way it gets through to the floor, is if it's already known beforehand that it will be rejected, and the DNC has allowed this to happen before, to boost Sander's profile so he can work for them more effectively.

This whole thing is performative theater before the elections, to attract Muslims and leftists to the booths for Kamala, and we should call it as such, instead of tone-policing.

[–] miz@lemmygrad.ml 26 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

pledged to intoduce a resolution

wow Bernie, don't sprain anything. maybe try using the term "genocide" to warm up

[–] gueybana@hexbear.net 17 points 2 weeks ago

Pledge to indtrouce a resolution calling for the preparation of a referendum on whether or not a vote should be held on a blockade of arm sales marketing for the sale of arma to israel, in Call of duty Modern Warfare

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 22 points 2 weeks ago
[–] m5rki5n@lemmygrad.ml 22 points 2 weeks ago

"And, of course, Israel has right to defend itself"

[–] keepcarrot@hexbear.net 18 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I also pledge to do this, with equal effect

[–] 201dberg@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Idk, you probably would put forth way more effort than Sanders. It's the results that will be the same.

[–] Xiisadaddy@lemmygrad.ml 17 points 2 weeks ago

Took almost a year for him to maybe consider possibly doing the bare fucking minimum

[–] amemorablename@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 2 weeks ago

I'll be glad if he does something that makes an actual difference, but right now, this reads like the same energy as Michael Scott in The Office "declaring bankruptcy."

Huge disappointment of a man. His presidential campaign was marketed in part on the idea that he opposed the Iraq War and last I've checked, he can't even call this a genocide. Best I can figure is that he was always less "left" than his presidential campaign made him seem and the activists involved pushed it further "left" than he would have done of his own accord.