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[–] Mindfury@hexbear.net 51 points 2 months ago

look, all i know is the nice union man is helping me find my gun grillman

[–] blame@hexbear.net 48 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I swear to god trying to parse twitter posts makes me think i have reading comprehension problems.

[–] Findom_DeLuise@hexbear.net 30 points 2 months ago

Mr. Evrart is helping me figure out what in the fuck is going on in this Twitter thread

[–] spectre@hexbear.net 21 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The site needs to die so badly. Even before the Elon crap

[–] Justice@lemmygrad.ml 15 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I remember when Twitter first went live or whatever and I was like "who the fuck would use this? Who is this for?" And promptly forgot about it totally for like 10 years. Boy was I surprised, and still am every day!, at how many people apparently desperately wanted to use the worst possible platform to spread news.... for that exact purpose.

Basically, I'm an OG hater and I can't stop hating... ever. Other good early hating calls made by me: facebook and league of legends. I also suffer from early things that become incredibly popular like those three. I also thought the iPhone, Apple Watch and iPad were all the dumbest fucking things ever at their respective announcements. I guess I wasn't wrong in many ways, but my reasons ("but... I have an iPod and a flip phone... the fuck do I need this new phone for?") were shit.

Anyway fuck Twitter and I hope Musk chokes on an emerald

[–] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 41 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children)

I haven’t played the game, but I watched a video from someone who did, and their takeaway is that they do ‘make fun of everyone,’ but they make fun of communists the most because they are also communists, and it comes from a place of tough love that deplores the end of history.

I also read that becoming a fascist makes the game easier lol

[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 29 points 2 months ago (1 children)

"They make fun of everyone" is the calling card of a South Park fan and a clue to not listen to anything they have to say

[–] Huldra@hexbear.net 11 points 2 months ago

They only really make fun of communists "the most" in the sense that it's the difference between constant mostly friendly teasing and occasional genuine disdain, but at the end of the day Communism is the only ideology presented in the game as fostering hope for the future and having an actual plan to make things better, to an almost satirical extent given that you genuinely will a physically impossible miniature construct to stand upright for a brief moment.

Meanwhile Fascism is so pathetic that the most empathetic part of its portrayal is that it kind of functions more as self harm to Harry, with him apparently willing himself into facial paralysis and brain damage by the end of the Fascism quest, Ultraliberalisms representatives are rabid death squad mercenaries and the woman who partially hired them, who in this context becomes extremely menacing as a closeted bourgeois nationalist, and Moralism is the people who kill everyone who ever wanted something better for the world, to which Harry is so completely removed from that power that if he becomes a Moralist he just fucking spouts complete bureaucratic gibberish like hes citing scripture.

[–] PKMKII@hexbear.net 38 points 2 months ago (1 children)

My takeaway is, the writers weren’t so much making fun of every ideology as they were reflecting the reality that no ideology is pure and without faults. Trying find a “clean” ideology is a fool’s errand and you chose them not in spite of their faults but because of them.

[–] Huldra@hexbear.net 17 points 2 months ago

I think they very deliberately present a spectrum of different representatives of "Communism" with all of them clashing in how much revolutionary prestige they have, how much theory they read, how much they actually do, how open they are etc.

So you get the old communard who would clearly have the most pure theory and revolutionary prestige, but has basically devolved into the Disco Elysium definition of a Fascist due to the butchering of the revolution and the reactionary wave that followed, the students who don't actually do any actions because they are obsessed about arriving at a pure revolutionary theory first and purging deviations, and then you have what could be seen as "mutual aid" or "community policing" in the Hardy Boys, and Evrart whos doing drug trafficking and other criminal activities to fuel an actual uprising of some sorts.

So you're invited to try and think critically about which of these is good and useful for "the movement".

[–] GoebbelsDeezNuts@hexbear.net 28 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

"disco elysium doesn't make fun of you for any political ideology you may align with"

what? the game makes fun of you entirely for any political decision you make regardless of ideology. if you go neolib, communist, or fascist the game makes fun of you.

"the writers think politics are stupid"

they are literally communists? i don't get this take at all. what am i missing? i feel like the exact opposite of this take it true

[–] PM_ME_YOUR_FOUCAULTS@hexbear.net 43 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

It's a bit awkwardly worded, but the OP is saying that the game makes fun of you regardless of what ideology you choose because Harry, the character, is fundamentally unserious about whatever it is because of who he is.

spoilerIf you play as communist, the communard veteran absolutely roasts you at the end for being a cop LARPing as a communist

[–] GoebbelsDeezNuts@hexbear.net 15 points 2 months ago

i see i just read the rest of the thread and it seems to be a response to "it makes fun of you for everything. therefore it is centrist"

i was missing this context, and also the context about it relating to Harry specifically

[–] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 19 points 2 months ago

That’s what the tweet is saying. They don’t think politics is stupid.

[–] lemmyseizethemeans@lemmygrad.ml 27 points 2 months ago

Still can't believe it wouldn't let me choose to sleep in a dumpster. Literally unplayable