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Putin, what does this mean? (lemmygrad.ml)
submitted 2 months ago by SpaceDogs@lemmygrad.ml to c/genzedong@lemmygrad.ml
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This is from the DPR MFA Telegram:

#Officials

Vladimir Putin has signed a decree allowing foreigners who share Russian spiritual and moral values to apply for temporary residence

The presidential decree grants the right to apply for a temporary residence permit without considering the established quota and without submitting proof of Russian language proficiency or knowledge of Russian history.

The document applies to those coming from countries that impose destructive neoliberal principles that contradict Russian traditional values. According to the decree, the list of such countries will be determined by the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs.

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[–] Flyberius@hexbear.net 56 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Please China, do the same

[–] SpaceDogs@lemmygrad.ml 45 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Xi Jinping, if you can hear us please, Xi Jinping please save me

[–] stink@lemmygrad.ml 26 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I am lucky enough to live a bourgeois life in America (I can afford groceries), but I think I would take it in a heart beat if it happened

[–] PoY@lemmygrad.ml 17 points 2 months ago

i'd be packing my shit the second i heard it

[–] ghost_of_faso2@lemmygrad.ml 14 points 2 months ago

I live an upper class life in the UK (I am not in energy bill debt)

[–] cayde6ml@lemmygrad.ml 35 points 2 months ago

I would fucking swim to China if they did that.

[–] newerAccountWhoDis@hexbear.net 11 points 2 months ago (3 children)

This is obviously inviting the worst people in. I don't think China should invite people who are big into "traditional values"

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 26 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

After 75 years of socialism traditional values damn better include socialism

[–] Flyberius@hexbear.net 16 points 2 months ago

Depends how you interpret what this would mean coming from the Chinese government as opposed to the Russian government.

[–] SadArtemis@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 2 months ago

Depends how one interprets Chinese "traditional values," tbh. Every culture/tradition has their issues, but homophobia/transphobia/etc are largely western imports.

[–] SadArtemis@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 2 months ago

Agreed, though China should do it for "socialist, anti-imperialist values." Please Xi!

[–] porcupine@lemmygrad.ml 26 points 2 months ago (1 children)

destructive neoliberal principles that contradict Russian traditional values

"destructive neoliberal principles are "Russian traditional values" and have been since the counter-revolution and subsequent shock therapy that created the RF.

[–] SpaceDogs@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 2 months ago

Yeah, that’s what confused me too because is Russia not neoliberal as well? I know it’s quite different in ways compared to western nations, but are they not operating under similar systems since the 90s? I wonder if “neoliberal principles” in this case just translates to queer rights.

[–] StalinIsMaiWaifu@lemmygrad.ml 26 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I think this is targeting balkan conservatives to move to Russia and (presumably) strengthen his base

[–] SpaceDogs@lemmygrad.ml 26 points 2 months ago

Yeah thats the vibe I got from the RT article. I guess he’s targeting conservatives in general. It is interesting though, I’m definitely not part of the demographic he’s looking for, if another country (like China) did I would jump at the opportunity.

[–] nocturnedragonite@lemmygrad.ml 20 points 2 months ago (1 children)

They want queerphobic chuds, literally that's the whole thing.

[–] SpaceDogs@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That’s sadly what it is. I wanted a Russian source on this, and the RT article I linked in a comment basically says exactly that. It talks about the banning of gender reassignment surgery, banning of LGBT “propaganda” (whatever the fuck that means), and a weird thing about banning the promotion of child-free sentiment. It’s such a shame…

[–] nocturnedragonite@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 2 months ago

It's just a sobering reminder that Russia is still a reactionary capitalist state even if they are fighting against imperialism.

[–] Kirbywithwhip1987@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 2 months ago (2 children)

What did he mean by this?

[–] BruceTwarzen@lemm.ee 9 points 2 months ago

Sounds like the foreign legion, except with russia and you know that you get drafted into an active warzone immediately

[–] SpaceDogs@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 2 months ago

Queerphobia, unfortunately. It sounds outrageous but the RT article kind of confirms it.

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Basically a circumvention on established immigration procedures to allow govt to permit anyone with one paper.

[–] SpaceDogs@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 2 months ago

Here’s an article from RT about this:

https://www.rt.com/russia/602802-russia-residency-traditiona-values/

[–] PanArab@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Do they accept people from non-western backgrounds?

[–] SpaceDogs@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 2 months ago

I don’t know anything about the immigration policies in Russia, but I’m assuming anyone could go there but paperwork will differ depending on where you are from and the circumstances of you going there. But hey, with this current policy maybe your country will be listed, but if not I guess you’d have to look into it more