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This (arguably unhelpful) phrase seems to be taught across schools all over the world. What are some other phrases like this that are common ?

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[–] Donjuanme@lemmy.world 168 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (37 children)

Okay, as a biologist it really upsets me how that phrase is written off. I did an impromptu half hour lecture for my wife about how significant "the mitochondria is the powerhouse of the cell" is,

The mitochondria is what ties everything on this planet together, it's the one thing that ties all life together, it is the exact same mechanism in plants as it is in animals, it takes the same ingredients and does the same function, and comes from the same origin.

There is no chain in our DNA that codes for the mitochondria, it exists outside of our DNA, it has no relationship with our DNA, it only fuels reading DNA and it's decoding and replication, but it isn't included in our genetics. It replicates itself, it exists as a separate entity, and it acts as the functioning unit for all energy within the cell.

It would be like if when a child was born their lungs were provided by an outside source and had the same genetic material as everyone else's lungs. Oh and puppy lungs, and crab lungs, and avocado lungs, and grass lungs, every single living thing on this plant has the same lung genetic material. And it has no clue that it serves this function, all it knows is ADP goes in, ATP goes out, and ATP is energy that fuels all function of all life.

And it comes from the friggin mitochondria.

Please be impressed with that little hitch hiker, it is the powerhouse that powers your neurons, grows the vegetables you eat, and makes life happen on earth.

How will we know something extraterrestrial comes our way? They'll have their own mitochondria, because something needs to power their cells, and it won't be the same as ours.

Writing off the mitochondria from biology is like writing off the exchange of goods in economics, or doing physics without the concept of mass, or art without feeling. There is nothing more basic, more fundamentally important to biology than the existence of the mitochondria, and it's role as the powerhouse of the cell.

MITOCHONDRIA IS THE POWERHOUSE OF THE CELL. That you know that makes me happy.

[–] Walican132@lemmy.today 26 points 2 months ago (2 children)

What if an extraterrestrial had the same mitochondria? Would sort of scientific impact would that have of our understanding of everything.

[–] davidgro@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)
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[–] massive_bereavement@fedia.io 5 points 2 months ago

That's probably why science dwellers are so bent on finding microscopic life outside of earth.

[–] Renacles@lemmy.world 16 points 2 months ago

Thank you! I couldn't stand to hear this anti mitochondria slander.

[–] DeathStrandicoot@lemm.ee 16 points 2 months ago

This is prokaryote erasure.

[–] olafurp@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Alien civilisation: Wait, you're telling me everyone here has a parasite that's within their own cells that is so well established that you can't live without it?

Human: Yeah, pretty much everything alive has it. Nbd.

[–] Shou@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

Not a parasite. A vital sidekick whom we cannot exist without.

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[–] Fosheze@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

How will we know something extraterrestrial comes our way? They'll have their own mitochondria, because something needs to power their cells, and it won't be the same as ours.

New writing prompt, aliens show up and they are wildly different from us but they and all life on their planet also use the exact same mitochondria as us.

[–] LarkinDePark@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 2 months ago

There is no chain in our DNA that codes for the mitochondria, it exists outside of our DNA, it has no relationship with our DNA, it only fuels reading DNA and it's decoding and replication, but it isn't included in our genetics.

The hell you say! What magic is this?

[–] olympicyes@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Did your lecture get you laid?

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[–] randomsnark@lemmy.ml 34 points 2 months ago (2 children)

that phrase is to biology as "donde esta la biblioteca" is to spanish

[–] MajorMajormajormajor@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 months ago

Troy and Abed in the mooorning!

[–] Barabas@hexbear.net 4 points 2 months ago

Donde esta la discoteca? If you had a β€˜cool’ teacher.

[–] wuphysics87@lemmy.ml 31 points 2 months ago (4 children)

'i' before 'e' except after 'c'

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 25 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Or when sounding like β€œA” as in neighbor and weigh

And on weekends and holidays, and all throughout May

And you always be wrong, no matter what you say.

[–] kerobaros@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago (2 children)

yes, Bryan, we all call that "desk"

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[–] JWBananas@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

Except in glacier, because English is fucked.

[–] PineRune@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

I always thought this one was pretty... WEIRD...

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[–] tias@discuss.tchncs.de 23 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I've only heard this phrase from Americans, so I think "all over the world" is a stretch

[–] Shou@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It's a meme in the netherlands as well.

[–] Psuedocoder@programming.dev 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Its taught in India as well, (and is also a meme here)

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[–] Shou@lemmy.world 19 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Mitochondria is plural. Mitochondria are the powerhouses of the cell.

[–] extremeboredom@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

What's the singular, then?

[–] ornery_chemist@mander.xyz 17 points 2 months ago (1 children)
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[–] MajorMajormajormajor@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 months ago

Mitochondreez nutz

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[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I believe most nations have a version of β€œHead, Shoulders, Knees, and Toes” that is taught in early education.

[–] otter@lemmy.ca 11 points 2 months ago (2 children)

While not unhelpful, stop-drop-and-roll and quicksand don't come up as often as we thought back then

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 5 points 2 months ago

I was always worried about proper handling of nitroglycerin. Talking to my friends it seems that wasn't as common as quicksand or even thinking you'd need to tell gold apart from fool's gold (pyrite). Games like Crash Bandicoot, shows like Dexter's Lab, and a general interest in science may have meant I heard more about it as a kid.

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[–] Badabinski@kbin.earth 11 points 2 months ago (6 children)

To the tune of "Pop Goes The Weasel":

x equals negative b /
plus or minus the square root /
of b squared minus 4 ac /
all over 2a!

I cannot believe that stupid fucking song is still in my head, but good God damn it worked. It's there for all 0 times I'll need the quadratic equation in my daily life.

[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 6 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I can't even visualise what you are saying

[–] scrion@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago

I don't hear it either, though.

[–] JWBananas@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (6 children)

I can. But I can't hear it at all.

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[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 4 points 2 months ago

It was to to the tune of Frère Jacques when I learned it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fr%C3%A8re_Jacques

Negative b, negative b
Plus or minus square root, plus or minus square root
B squared minus 4 AC, b squared minus 4 AC
Over 2A, over 2A

Finding the name of the original song was a pain. I'd never seen it written as an adult and thought it said "do re mi" so every search result kept telling me it was from the sound of music.

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[–] DavidDoesLemmy@aussie.zone 8 points 2 months ago (5 children)

Do you have any evidence your phrase is used all over the world? I never learnt it.

[–] _edge@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I learned it in German in Germany. Do we have evidence from the francophone world? Latam? China?

[–] MrBobDobalina@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 months ago

Checking in from NZ, sounds familiar to me

[–] Jimmycrackcrack@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Definitely did it in Australia.

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[–] SwordInStone@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

Question and all comments (apart from "donde esta la biblioteka") are not "all over the world", but American

Workers of the world, unite!

[–] Crotaro@beehaw.org 6 points 2 months ago

"Don't use Wikipedia as a source."

Man, if I want to get a pretty good overview on almost anything, Wikipedia is the best and most accessible way. Luckily, the consensus seems to slowly change to a cautious "Don't use Wikipedia as your only source, especially on controversial topics."

[–] sodalite@slrpnk.net 5 points 2 months ago
[–] rbos@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 months ago

Didn't that originate in a Sabrina The Teenage Witch episode? Or did I just imagine that?

[–] friendly_ghost@beehaw.org 5 points 2 months ago (3 children)

"Christopher Columbus discovered America" (hopefully they're not still teaching this)

[–] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 9 points 2 months ago

Even worse: Columbus thought the earth was round but nobody believed him.

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