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[–] eva_sieve@startrek.website 29 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Huh, I was expecting this to be about T'lyn! no such luck on that front unfortunately. Haven't combed through the trailer in too much detail, but if this is the first time I'm hearing confirmation about them all getting promoted would that imply most of the trailer shots are from relatively early in the season?

It feels right for the gang to get promoted. If you asked me what Lower Decks is about, underneath all the nostalgia and jokes, I'd say it's about growth--Starfleet is awesome, but its legends of yesteryear don't start that way. These goofy, lower-decker ensigns may be screwups, but at the core they're Starfleet though and through. It kind of feels appropriate to move on from where the original TNG episode Lower Decks left off-- the promotion of proto-Boimler Sam Lavelle-- and explore what growth looks like beyond that.

Edited to add: I went back through the trailer and yep, no visible changes to their rank pips. Although T'lyn has a shot where she's switched over from a provisional lozenge to the standard single round ensign pip.

[–] StillPaisleyCat@startrek.website 17 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I’m relieved to hear that the group will be promoted. 3 years is a fairly long haul as ensigns, even on a second tier ship. The humour and credibility would begin to wear a bit thin if they at that rank throughout the show’s run. (… yes, I know about Ensign Kim and that was inexplicable - he should have been given an acting promotion to lieutenant at minimum.)

It’s interesting that TrekMovie has this article up before the news release has been posted. (I checked the Paramount+ press site and the most recent posting for Lower Decks is for the trailer release July 22nd, and these details aren’t in that one.)

[–] milkisklim@lemm.ee 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, there was no reason for an Ensign to run Ops on a ship like Voyager. It would have been great writing for after Paris gets demoted, Janeway takes the pip and places it on Kim's collar.

[–] Bonehead@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Instead, they repromote Paris, and when Kim asks why he didn't see a little box on his desk this morning everyone promptly ignores him.

[–] apprehensively_human@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

~~O'Brien~~ Kim must suffer

[–] SweetAIBelle@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well, to be fair, their original Harry Kim is dead, making the current one the newest member of the crew until 7 of 9 shows up.

And for all we know, the ship records may still show him as dead, therefore unpromotable...

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

See that woulda been an hilarious spin. Just have the ship record his death and now the replicators won't recognise him, doors won't open, go the whole boimler / better off ted. Eventually they have to trick it by 're-hiring' a harry kim to get him back in the sytem .

And now he gets no promotion due to being far too inexperienced in his career.

[–] SweetAIBelle@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'd have loved something like that.

I'd personally have liked them to have not let that go, and have a whole character arc with Harry struggling with the knowledge that none of them are the same people he knew, though they act identically, differentiating between things he did and the original and so on...

Resetting back to status quo after events that should have had a lasting impact is one of these things that bothers me in Voyager.

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 1 points 1 year ago

Coulda also done a great adoption parallel with Naomi finding out. Would have gone great in Voyager's found family

[–] ValueSubtracted@startrek.website 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The Paramount press site is...not as reliable as you would think. It's not uncommon for sites like Trekmovie to run episode previews that obviously came from press releases, while the actual Paramount site lags behind by a day or two.

Signed,

The guy who sometimes loses his mind trying to set up the episode discussion posts.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 5 points 1 year ago

I've had to pirate this show because even when I paid for a subscription, none of the content ever actually played through their apps on any of my devices.

[–] beefcat@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

One season of Lower Decks is 6 months in-universe, so they’ve only been ensigns for a year and a half

I had understood it to be more like a year. There was a significant period of several months, for example, when Boimler served on the Titan between seasons.