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Well. That didn't take long. (secondnexus.com)
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[–] fubo@lemmy.world 48 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The distinguishing mark of so-called "conservatives" in the US is not, in fact, conservatism — that is, a desire to cherish and protect the good in their society.

Rather, it is betrayal.

They are not conservatives, but rather traitors — betrayers. They betray their faith, placing Trump ahead of Jesus. They betray their country, placing Putin ahead of Washington. They betray their species, placing oil companies ahead of humanity.

Conservatism can only be redeemed by embracing the actual good of our actual society. You can only conserve that which really exists. That includes the "melting pot" of multiculturalism.

[–] comedy@kbin.social 13 points 1 year ago

It would be cool if they were all about conserving wildlife, natural features, forests, clean air, and clean water. Or the rights to vote and have privacy.

But no, they just want to conserve the power of a small group at the expense of everyone else.

[–] FishLake@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 1 year ago

Imagine a pretend political ideology called cleavism. Given its name you say it’s all about cleaving the good in society from the bad, whatever the hell that means. But there are so-called “cleavists” out there who insist cleavism is about joining the bad and the good together. What gives? Well, in practice cleavism has little to do with the two opposing definitions of “to cleave” (“to split” and “to join”). It’s really just named after some guy with the surname Cleaver or something.

Political ideologies aren’t medical diagnoses. You can’t derive their meaning like you can with atrial arrhythmic induced tachycardia cardiomyopathy. If you try this naive etymology out on anarchism then you’ll reduce that ideology to nothing more than a non-substantive, meaningless, circular definition. Conservatives conserve. Liberals liberate. Socialists socialize. See? Meaningless.

Unfortunately for the entire world, conservatism has never been about “protecting the good in society.” That’s just a vapid and empty wish for what you want conservatism to mean. You’d be hard pressed to find any reputable political science text that would trivialize one of the most dominate ideologies of the past two centuries like this. Let alone claim there is some inherent goodwill baked into the ideology.

[–] JoBo 45 points 1 year ago (2 children)

News sites need to start using screenshots of tweets. That article is mostly empty space with some @s in it for me.

Archive link for those with the same issue.

[–] Uniquitous@lemmy.one 15 points 1 year ago

I just assumed my ad blocker was doing its job. Weird formatting, if not.

[–] MaxPow3r11@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

or just the text of the tweet...we don't need to drive any more focus/attention back to twitter.

[–] books@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago (3 children)

That website is absolute cancer on a mobile device

[–] UnPassive@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

I use an ad blocker and the empty space between information (presumably where ads should be) is hilariously large

[–] RazorsLedge@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Just use Firefox and ublock, friend.

[–] wrecking7416@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

The ads work pretty well. That's the point right? The ads?

[–] MaxPow3r11@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago

All these people know is hate.

They can only support "their own" for so long before they start directing their hate and rage at each other.

Cycles keep spinning.

[–] TheJims@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

They’d like him better if they knew he fucked an ostrich. Bunch of fuckin’ degens.

[–] ettyblatant@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

ALLEGEDLYS!

[–] thepyro395@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

I heard it was a sick ostrich

[–] oxjox@lemmy.ml 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"We are the melting pot of the world and that's what makes us strong our diversity. And we need to learn to harness that and appreciate it and not use it as a political tool to keep everyone separate from it.”

Conservatives: No, that's exactly the tool we've been talking about.

It's saddening and hurtful that overt racism is accepted and trendy in The United States of America. I genuinely don't understand how the most foundational core component of this country is lost on so many people. The US was founded to escape persecution and oppression (as it persecuted and oppressed the natives and later did the same with "imported labor"). Oh, yeah... I guess hypocrisy and contradiction is right there within the core too.

[–] abbotsbury@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal"

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 1 year ago

But only the white ones who own property. The rest are scum who aren't allowed to vote. And don't even get me started on the non-whites. /s

[–] Pratai@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don’t know if I like them wearing their racism on their sleeve better than back when they were hiding it.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

At least you know who to avoid that way.

[–] maniajack@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago

This article is garbage, here's "thing someone said" + random twitter comments about it. So one, it spreads the toxic original message of hate from rando idiot conservatives toward the idea of diversity and a melting pot. Then two, it makes us liberals broadly associate all conservatives with the hate message from rando twitter accounts. Imo this is garbage "journalism". If prominent conservative thought leaders are commenting about something on twitter it could be newsworthy, but you probably know that it's probably not when they include users such as "TriangleCyclops", "DPZCrypto", "BoxingMD1", etc. Yep those 3-4 tweets must represent literally millions of people's exact thoughts.

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Do beards prevent leopards from eating your face?

[–] dx1@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Finally a song that captures our thoughts and perspective and how we really feel!

(the song is complete fucking garbage)

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.one 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Somebody else remembering their School House Rock:

https://youtu.be/32l3sTFRFX8?feature=shared

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[–] SinningStromgald@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

"Centrist" aka "I'll still vote for racist fascist misogynists instead of anyone else". Fuck off!

P.S. And he thinks welfare is a problem like some blubbering Reganite reject.

[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lol you must be one of those vote blue no matter who types. You're anyone else is always a dem isn't it? And if someone votes anything else than blue or red, they're throwing away their vote right?

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You're the one who is blinded by ideology.

The GOP in the US literally tried to overthrow the Constitution in 2020, and hasn't said they won't do it in 2024.

If the choice is between the Dems and some magical third party who is going to pop up out of nowhere, hell yes I'm voting Blue no matter who.

[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yea... I'm the one that's blinded, while you literally just said you will blindly vote blue.

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The Left had four years to put Bernie on the ballot. I contributed to him myself. We're heading into 2024 and the GOP's top candidate is still Trump. Who is your alternative to Biden?

[–] 4lan@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Bring us a rational Republican and we'd have a choice to make. As of now it's democracy vs fascism. Easy choice

Go ahead and get froggy in 2024, FAFO if you must

[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

At this point, trump and biden should be disqualified for just their age. They're dinosaurs, vote wise, Presidential voting doesn't matter as much as local and state does. I've tried to vote independent as much as I can, and vote for someone that at least hits 50% of what I believe is needed. Dems do make the pass sometimes but other times I don't feel comfortable voting for any candidates.

Also Bernie got Ron Pauled by the Dems. Dude should definitely been the one put up against trump

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

So, you can't answer the one question that actually matters. Who, if not Biden?

[–] ME5SENGER_24@lemm.ee -1 points 1 year ago

Good for him! Fuck the haters