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Long overdue, I know, but looking to start at least partially migrating and working with Dual boot, coming from Windows 10 (putting off 11 as much as possible)...

I have limited Linux experience, mostly in college several years back.

I work remotely with Windows software development, including Winforms, Asp.net, .net core, etc. Not sure what I need to best work with these, particularly Winforms. That may not even be possible, I know.

Looking for any general guidance/recommendations.

Long term, I'm interested in migrating as much as possible, outside of whatever I have to keep up for work... starting with dual boot options then moving towards linux as a primary driver. I have an old media server (also win10, not win11 compatable) not really doing much but running plex when I need it... would love to also eventually poke around with Home Assistant or similar, maybe some LLM tinkering etc.

If this isn't a good community for this, I apologize, and please point me to a better one if you know of one.

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[–] Kory@lemmy.ml 13 points 3 months ago (2 children)

There's some really good posts with lots of comments with pros and cons to read through on Lemmy, I'd recommend for example:

https://lemmy.ml/post/12123645

https://lemmy.ml/post/18268622

[–] bsergay@discuss.online 1 points 3 months ago
[–] LordTrychon@startrek.website 1 points 3 months ago
[–] ElcaineVolta@kbin.melroy.org 6 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I'm no expert but every guide I've ever looked into portrays Mint as the most plug-and-play windows adjacent distro. I personally settled on Pop OS which has also been very simple.

[–] deuleb_biezelbob@programming.dev 5 points 3 months ago

I'd also say Mint

Cinnamon DE is fantastic for converts and very intuitive.

Im more into WMs today but Cinnamon is still my favorite (maybe shared 1st with XFCE)

[–] LordTrychon@startrek.website 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Did you try others before settling on Pop OS? Is there a largest reason it worked best for you?

[–] ElcaineVolta@kbin.melroy.org 6 points 3 months ago

I messed around a bit with Mint on a spare laptop, but settled on Pop OS for the NVIDIA drivers and the appearance options, mostly

[–] LordTrychon@startrek.website 3 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I meant to add... very long term goal if I get comfortable enough would be to maybe even try to convert my wife... but photoshop/Adobe Creative suite is a must have... how is that on Linux these days? Would this affect what distro I should aim for in that instance?

[–] deuleb_biezelbob@programming.dev 4 points 3 months ago

I'd pick a distro and use a VM with Windows for Adobe products. Depending on which, there is ofcourse the drawback of performance. Might be a lot of new things to lear depending how comfortable you are with Linux

[–] bsergay@discuss.online 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

but photoshop/Adobe Creative suite is a must have… how is that on Linux these days?

We got you covered, fam.

[–] Alk@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

I am a beginner and I chose Pop OS. It has a more up to date kernel (and I've heard more up to date software too) and it worked well for me. I did have to install some gnome extensions to get the UI how I liked it because I didn't really like it out of the box. But it's great.

[–] _____@lemm.ee 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

I don't recommend dual booting. I used to dual boot and use my Linux partition as a work OS and Windows thanos zapped the bootloader more than 3 times. At bare minimum do not partition a drive in order to have two OSs (and one being windows)

As for winforms in Linux, I don't recommend it either but you can try out mono. There might be other options. For school I had to use c# and windows because the functionality for development in Linux was lacking. Mono might work, I expect you will encounter various difficulties along the way in terms of set up, environment,etc. That you will likely have to deal with on your own.

As for the distro, I personally went from 0 experience to using arch and I still use arch to this day 5 years later. I think it's the simplest distro to use and it's extremely minimal.

I know it sounds ridiculous, but I strongly believe the stigma vs arch is unwarranted in this day and age. You can install it with a CLI installer that comes with the ISO and then the rest is like using Linux as usual.

If I wasn't a tech person I'd probably use mint though.

[–] LordTrychon@startrek.website 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Thanks. I've heard of the bootloader issue so I was planning on separate drives for Linux vs windows.

I love powershell, so I'm not afraid of the CLI, but it is daunting.

[–] _____@lemm.ee 3 points 3 months ago

The installer CLI involves 0 scripting. You just pick and choose options (and it has defaults) it's a full fledged installer that runs in a terminal.

[–] DARbarian@kbin.run 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] LordTrychon@startrek.website 1 points 3 months ago

Thanks, haven't heard of this one, looking into it now.

[–] Ripper@programming.dev 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

As you look to begin using Linux, try out something basic like Linux mint(Ubuntu derivative), pop os. etc

If you want to eventually move to a more advanced Linux setup, I'd recommend Arch Linux, however it requires the mastery of terminal and shell scripting to be fluent in your work flow. I'd recommend starting off with an arch GUI like Garuda linux, go with the KDE version as you come from Windows

[–] LordTrychon@startrek.website 2 points 3 months ago

Thanks, I'm leaning towards getting started with Linux and then investigating options from there. The opensuse someone else recommended also looks interesting.

[–] tengkuizdihar@programming.dev 2 points 3 months ago

I'm going to chime in and make bullet points, to not torture you with wall of text.

Recommend (especially for new comers):

  • Ubuntu
    • easy to use
    • many choice to install literally everything ever
    • used by EVERYONE so plenty of hands on tutorial & troubleshooting
    • used both in servers and desktop

Not Recommended (especially for new comers):

  • Manjaro/Arch
    • Difficult learning curve
    • Sometime breaks when upgrading (looking at you manjaro)
  • NixOS
    • Very difficult learning curve
    • Need to get used with a whole new language to operate
    • Perfect for making a reproducible OS, especially if you like experimenting
[–] Hammerheart@programming.dev 2 points 3 months ago

Ive been daily driving debian since dec 25, 2023. I dont regret it at all. I had some experience using ubuntu in like 2007, but other than that had been using windows exclusively.

[–] heikkiket@programming.dev 2 points 3 months ago

I always recommend Ubuntu for beginners. It has the largest userbase and broadest support from all kinds of software vendors (including commercial software)

Ubuntu with default desktop will probably work straight out of the box with your computer if any distro will. Then you can easily try it, learn more and see if you like it.

You can also get commercial support for Ubuntu: maybe even your local computer shop can help you with any problems you run into (like printer installs)

Later on, you may switch to something else if Ubuntu does not feel the best distro.

[–] LastoftheDinosaurs@reddthat.com 1 points 3 months ago

Given your background and interests, I recommend starting with Ubuntu or Linux Mint. These distributions are user friendly for those transitioning from a Windows environment. Setting up a dual-boot with Windows would allow you to maintain your current setup while exploring Linux. Both Ubuntu and Linux Mint have guides to help you get started with dual-booting.

For getting started with Home Assistant or trying out large language models, I'd recommend Docker. You can keep these services separate from your systems files if you install them in container.

[–] Ibaudia@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

KDE Neon. It's modern, uses a mainstream desktop environment, ships with Flatpaks, and uses Wayland by default. It's also very similar to Windows in its UI.

It's very similar to many other distros, unlike Mint or Ubuntu which have highly customized desktops. If you don't like it, you can easily switch.

[–] ssm@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Recommendation from a guy who started on Arch (bad mistake). I never dabbled in Ubuntu/Mint/PopOS/whatever so I don't know how to recommend those, so take that very large grain of salt.

  • You want Windows/MacOS but the same
    • Debian/Devuan
      • Pick an image that comes with a default desktop environment of your choosing.
      • Once you figure out the package manager it's easy sailing.
        • Caveat emptor, haven't had to set up Nvidia on this.
  • You can read instructions and follow them
    • Void Linux
      • Nvidia is trivial to set up.
      • Like Arch, but stable.
      • No AUR, the official repositories are just good instead.
    • Alpine Linux
      • Uses musl libc.
        • Has no software because musl libc.
          • Flatpak and other runtimes can get around this, thankfully.
      • Busybox sucks, replace with coreutils immediately.
      • Install the docs metapackage if you want to have any clue what you're doing.
  • You want to learn, maybe after you already had some experience
    • OpenBSD
      • The best documentation on the planet.
      • Not Linux, but a lot of the stuff you learn here can be applied to Linux.
      • Try to avoid 3rd party utilities and instead rely on the base system as much as possible.
      • No modern Nvidia driver, not even nouveau.
        • Display should at the very least still work with the vga(4) or efifb(4) drivers, but you'll have no acceleration.
    • Gentoo
      • Don't go too hard on the useflags or kernel config unless you want to have a bad time.
      • Honestly should be in the previous category if it wasn't so easy to footgun yourself with one bad command or configuration.
        • This is where the learning part comes in
      • Stage 4 tarball is cheating.