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[–] Kabloink@lemmy.world 97 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Most of these Republicans probably have been vaccinated in their childhood. It's their children that will pay the price of their ignorance.

[–] Bonesince1997@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

They'll learn the hard way. And then their blood line will disappear.

[–] rustydomino@lemmy.world 44 points 3 months ago

That’s not how vaccines and herd immunity work. We’re ALL going to learn the hard way.

[–] GoofSchmoofer@lemmy.world 60 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Person who has spent 20+ years studying viruses and how they effect the human body: "Vaccines are effective and safe."

Random politician with very little science or medical education: "Vaccines are bad because say they are."

Republican voter: "I agree with the idiot politician."

[–] Bojimbo@lemmy.world 27 points 3 months ago (3 children)

I'm a biostatisitcian who has taught several infectious disease epidemiology classes, and my hick-ass family doesn't treat me like I know what I'm talking about.

Even my actually libertarian parents are voting for RFK Jr. RFK Jr. led the charge of anti vaxxing in Somoa during a measles outbreak. 63 children died. He went into black communties during covid and compared the RNA vaccine to the Tuskeegee experiments. Fuck antivaxxers and fuck RFK.

[–] dan@upvote.au 12 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

taught several infectious disease epidemiology classes

Thanks for doing what you do, even if there's ignorant people in the world that don't believe you.

He went into black communties during covid and compared the RNA vaccine to the Tuskeegee experiments

daaaaamn I didn't know he did that, that is deeply fucked up

[–] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

my actually libertarian parents are voting for RFK Jr. RFK Jr.

Strange choice considering Chase Oliver is actually a p decent candidate

[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)
I will immediately end the Federal backing of student loans by asking Congress to make all current loans interest-free, while simultaneously ending all future government-guaranteed loans.

I would then make the discharge of interest revenue neutral by requiring the Department of Defense to cut costs by closing overseas bases and installations and bringing our troops home, instead of engaging in expensive nation-building and peacekeeping missions abroad. It is only right that the DoD bear part of the cost, as mounting debt is as big a threat to our security as any foreign enemy,

Finally, I would allow students to stabilize their financial situations by allowing student loan debt to be dischargeable in bankruptcy just like any other loan. I want a well-educated populace that can compete with the minds of any other nation, but not at the cost of our nation’s financial and retirement security.

Yes.

[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I mean, I agree with the second one (and massive cuts to the DoD and the staggering amount of wastr there; not so much the focus on foreign bases), but I hope there's a LOT more stuff than that.

[–] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 months ago

There is, you can find it in his website

[–] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Context is the left's biggest weakness and the lack of it is the alt-rights greatest strength.

It's easy to be short, quippy, and loud and much harder to be informed and detailed.

[–] crusa187@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 months ago

You’re right, but consider that virtually all forms of media have been working overtime to reduce average attention spans to the narrowest possible window over the past 20-30 years. This can make it much more difficult for the informed messages to register before that next notification fires off.

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 50 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Let's start a program where we let people volunteer to catch the disease naturally. We lock them up in a quarantine building, and televise their horrible suffering.

[–] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago

Honestly needs to be a thing

[–] Cuttlefish1111@lemmy.world 21 points 3 months ago

One must think those 30% are the crazies. The Gaetz. The MTG. The Boebert. They’re just leading the party at the moment. Their handlers lost control to Russia. I believe we will see many changes to GOP over the next year

[–] brygphilomena@lemmy.world 18 points 3 months ago

It's almost like the diseases aren't bad specifically because we have vaccines.

These dumbfucks don't see the danger because we spent so much time, effort, and money to make them not so bad. I'm sure there is a name for this phenomenon. Idiocy, maybe?

[–] Ethalis@jlai.lu 14 points 3 months ago (1 children)

31% of republicans won't be voting for long

[–] snooggums@midwest.social 8 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Sadly they spawn like roaches so there are plenty of replacement morons.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 12 points 3 months ago

Stupid fucks. My father nearly died from polio. And these assholes wanna bring it back.

[–] antonim@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 3 months ago (1 children)

That's not even a bad number, honestly, I expected the percentage to be much higher, especially after the world-wide drama around COVID vaccines.

[–] morphballganon@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago

Maybe the number would have been higher, but it's self-correcting.

[–] Zombiepirate@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago

Well I say Republicans are more dangerous than the diseases they cause.

[–] OldWoodFrame@lemm.ee 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

This is really a denial of the authority and expertise of public health officials. Vaccines COULD be more dangerous than the diseases they prevent (theoretically...doubt it has happened for other reasons), or at least have side effects that make the vaccines not worth giving to everyone. Like the smallpox vaccine isn't given to everyone anymore because it just isn't worth the cost/benefit analysis anymore.

But if a vaccine doesn't pass the cost/benefit analysis, it doesn't get approved for common use. That is the job of public health officials. So that 31% are all wrong if they mean "all vaccines" or "currently widely available vaccines" which they almost certainly do.

[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago

Because smallpox was completely eradicated. It no longer exists in nature, due to...

checks notes

Gasp!

[–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Their terms are acceptable as long as they sign waivers that they will not seek medical help for those illnesses.

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Nah, let them get medical help. The waivers just say that they get bumped if someone who is taking precautions, or had a medical exemption for vaccines, gets sick.

I don't care if they're on a ventilator and unable to move, if some immunodeficient kid who couldn't get the shot needs that spot, just wheel the anti vaxxer into the hallway and let them croak.

[–] lemmytellyousomething@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 3 months ago (2 children)

F*ck AI... Can we please invent cryosleep, so that we can skip the next 50 years of this timeline and wake up when it's over without aging?

[–] palordrolap@kbin.run 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The genie grants your wish. Everyone on Earth at the moment of the wish emerges from cryosleep 50 years from now with no memory of how they got into the cryosleep pod, nor how they got to it, and worse, as well rested as they were right before the event happened. Important parts of infrastructure have crumbled in our absence. Nature has taken back over.

Mankind finds itself with different problems, but are they any better?

[–] catch22@startrek.website 6 points 3 months ago

Interesting, like a viral suppressant, letting earth heal.

[–] dan@upvote.au 4 points 3 months ago

Bold of you to assume that things will be better in 50 years.

[–] HurlingDurling@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

Translation - 31% of Republicans are braindead ignorants

[–] watson387@sopuli.xyz 1 points 3 months ago
[–] Spitzspot@lemmings.world 1 points 3 months ago (4 children)

It seems like this will sort itself out.

[–] andrewta@lemmy.world 15 points 3 months ago (1 children)

If only it would take care of the issue by only affecting those that weren't vaccinated

[–] TexasDrunk@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago

Excluding those that can't be vaccinated for medical reasons.

[–] randompasta@lemmy.today 12 points 3 months ago

And take a lot of people down with them due to lack of herd immunity.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

It won't. This is just a symptom of the mass delusion 20% of Americans are afflicted with. They need cult deprogramming before they destroy the entire country.

[–] watson387@sopuli.xyz 4 points 3 months ago

Except that eventually it will destroy the herd immunity that keeps us safe. These easily eradicated diseases will mutate and vaccinated people will start getting sick.