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Enough Musk Spam

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[–] TSG_Asmodeus@lemmy.world 158 points 3 months ago (3 children)

One thing I noticed, and you can check this for yourself too, is that American media outlets constantly refer to her as 'Elon Musks transgender daughter', and it really bothers me it's not just 'Elon Musks Daughter.'

So I checked, and the BBC, CTV News (canadian), CBC (also canadian) all just refer to her as his daughter.

I absolutely love that she's bringing the lumber, but I could really do with news organizations not using that as her identifier. She's not 'Elon Musk's transgender daughter.' She's Vivian Jenna Wilson, she doesn't even consider Elon her father. I'll let her speak for herself here:

(From her name change):

“I no longer live with or wish to be related to my biological father in any way, shape or form,” she wrote on the petition.

“I would like to emphasize one thing: I am an adult,” she said, according to NBC. “I am 20 years old. I am not a child. My life should be defined by my own choices.”

[–] xenoclast@lemmy.world 20 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I suspect that it's more for "engagement" and clickbait than malice from the headline writer.

that is if you don't think that this kind of communication isn't harmful to the human race at least. Which it is. Obviously.

[–] TSG_Asmodeus@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I agree it's not to intentionally target her maliciously, but it is malicious: how does the story change if you just say 'daughter'? If she was a Catholic convert would it be 'Elon Musks Transgender Catholic Daughter'? I understand part of his hatred towards her is that she's transgendered, but we don't have to allow that. And as I said, other news agencies aren't (all) doing that.

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[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I do by best to try to refer to her as his ex daughter. Maybe it’s just my own relationship with my own disowning but it’s definitely a valuable distinction imo

[–] TSG_Asmodeus@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

That's a great point, she does even say she doesn't want any association with him.

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[–] AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I resonate with your sentiment and applaud you bringing it up, but in this case I feel it's pretty relevant to the story. It's the trans aspect that caused Musk to say a bunch of shitty stuff about her to begin with. If the story was about her winning the lottery or something else unrelated, I'd be 100% with you.

[–] TSG_Asmodeus@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago (3 children)

My point is their legitimizing his reasoning. They're saying this is the reason he did it. Let him say that. Never let him try to shy away from it, make it so if he's going to misgender/deadname/etc he's openly doing it.

Think about it, the story title should go:

"Elon Musks daughter speaks out about her fathers homophobia, bigotry, etc"

Let him try to legitimize it and fail, don't give him the step up first. Make him look like the lunatic he is for raving about his 'dead son' or whatever, let him hang himself with his own rope. She even says:

“I would like to emphasize one thing: I am an adult,” she said, according to NBC. “I am 20 years old. I am not a child. My life should be defined by my own choices.”

She had no choice in this at all, she is who she is, so we need to stop helping make a minor part of her identity her identifying characteristic.

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[–] grue@lemmy.world 150 points 3 months ago (3 children)

14 words breeder shit

For those who don't get the reference, she's calling him a literal NAZI.

[–] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 43 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Wow, what a load of crap. I wonder if Musk really talked about that stuff, which would be taking his shittiness to the next level.

[–] tacticalsugar@lemmy.blahaj.zone 29 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

He talks about it openly. "Falling birthrates" and "the great replacement" are dog whistles for "white genocide". They're talking about how "the white race" is going to "lose" because the white people are outnumbered by people of color.

[–] AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago (2 children)

It's such garbage. I'm not sure why anyone cares about anyone else's skin tone. I'm lilly white, but I wouldn't care at all if everyone in the world was an even brown at some future time. Why would I?

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[–] Notyou@sopuli.xyz 21 points 3 months ago

Oh. Those 14 words. I thought there was another set of words specifically against child free people.

[–] dylanmorgan@slrpnk.net 16 points 3 months ago

I appreciate you remembering not everyone is tuned into this stuff to the same degree. I just immediately thought “oh, he’s a nazi? That scans” when I saw the 14 words reference.

[–] Blackmist 78 points 3 months ago (3 children)

You know what, I think Elon's kid is gonna turn out alright.

[–] masquenox@lemmy.world 36 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I think Elon’s kid is gonna turn out alright.

I'd say she already did.

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[–] Cadeillac@lemmy.world 71 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Don't forget who you were Elon. Trying to erase an image, almost like you no longer feel like that person anymore (or maybe never did)

Deleted Forever Elon

[–] zyratoxx@lemm.ee 15 points 3 months ago

The time Elon tried cosplaying Edward Scissorhands

[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago

D'Elon the Musketeer

[–] dylanmorgan@slrpnk.net 66 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Sometimes I doubt my skills as a father. Then I read shit like this and realize I’m doing alright.

[–] AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.world 16 points 3 months ago

I tell a lot of new parents that kids are amazingly resilient, so when you inevitably make mistakes, they'll likely be fine. On the other hand, they're amazingly sensitive and perceptive, so no matter how good of a job you do, you'll probably leave then with at least minor issues. I mean, if someone you know has zero emotional issues, it probably means you don't know them that well.

[–] Zink@programming.dev 12 points 3 months ago

Same. As with so many things in life, giving a shit and showing up get you like 80% of the way there.

[–] RadioFreeArabia@lemmy.world 55 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

language of the enemy

what have we done to him? I hate him even more than I did before reading this.

Edit: I didn't expect my comment to track. I may as well take this opportunity to post a Chrisitan Arab's perspective on Arabic

Consider a language spoken by Christians for more than fifteen hundred years. Its early masters composed exquisite poetry, pioneering a tradition that still flourishes today. Many of the great works of Christian thought were composed in this language; many of the most significant texts of philosophy, medicine, and astronomy were preserved in it. The Bible could be read in it for centuries before it could be read in English, French, German, or Spanish. Today it is spoken and written across Europe and North America, as well as Asia and Africa; it features prominently in modern political thought and advocacy. I am speaking, of course, of Arabic.

https://www.firstthings.com/article/2024/08/arabic-a-christian-language

[–] MerchantsOfMisery@lemmy.ml 18 points 3 months ago

Exist? That alone is enough for weirdos like Musk to want POC dead.

[–] thesporkeffect@lemmy.world 17 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I think it's the most beautiful and elegant looking writing system, as someone who can neither read nor speak it.

[–] RadioFreeArabia@lemmy.world 13 points 3 months ago

Thank you. This comment got me to start !arabiccalligraphy.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Many westerners still blame everything and everyone Arab for 9/11.

[–] voracitude@lemmy.world 17 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

It is also true that "many" Westerners are more enlightened than that, but the ones that aren't always shout the loudest.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

There are both many racist westerners and many enlightened ones.

Beware the hazard of minimizing how many of our countrymen are extremely racist. It's more prevalent than you might think. We know exactly what Elon is saying because we all know an asshole like that.

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[–] MerchantsOfMisery@lemmy.ml 53 points 3 months ago

The reason why he hasn't sued her for libel is because he knows her lawyers would mop the floor with him with the disclosure.

[–] tibi@lemmy.world 37 points 3 months ago (1 children)

One of the core values of conservatism is removing regulations and protections for regular people against corporations, and giving them more power. That's what Elon believes in. The rest of it, like the "family values" and "religious rights" are just a smoke screen for the voters.

[–] LarmyOfLone@lemm.ee 7 points 3 months ago (2 children)

One of the core values of ~~conservatism~~ capitalism

FTFY ;) But yeah I think you're onto something. There is, I suspect, a kind of self delusion. He really only pursues power and ideology is merely a tool he uses. He's feeling the pressure economically because he likes the role of the captain of industry but he's starting to fuck up more and more with Tesla and SpaceX. So is growing extremism in the recent years isn't part of a rational thought or honest ideology but a narcissistic rationalization. He wants to continue being powerful and accumulating more power so he has to counter by embracing the more extreme ideology. But he doesn't really give a fuck about family, economy, society or anything.

If he only kept his mouth shut about politics and continued with his ideas I'd be fine with him being a flawed and scummy entrepreneur that still manages to move and change our global industry. Even if he steals the accomplishments of others and lies and over-promises he acts as an effective mouthpiece for ideas I like. He would have had a flawed legacy.

But instead he became this monstrosity.

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[–] ZeroHora@lemmy.ml 36 points 3 months ago (1 children)

When I grow up I want to be badass like her.

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[–] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 35 points 3 months ago

haha what a badass

[–] TheObviousSolution@lemm.ee 30 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Social network and big data, Cambridge Analytica never died, it prospered like a hydra who only got one of its heads cut off. People who only went online to affirm their beliefs are now getting herded into like minded crazies and airheads that serve their purpose as subgroups of artificial movements. And nothing is going to be done about it because astrosurfing is a cornerstone of capitalism, apparently.

[–] answersplease77@lemmy.world 30 points 3 months ago (1 children)

TIL This Vivian girl is based af

[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 14 points 3 months ago (1 children)

and imagine achieving this with Elon as your parent, it is like starting a race of becoming a sensible person with a -10 penalty

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 12 points 3 months ago (1 children)

In all fairness, Musk was not much of an influence on her.

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[–] Luci@lemmy.ca 30 points 3 months ago

Fuck yay! Go girl!

[–] ganksy@lemmy.world 27 points 3 months ago

POW! BIFF! THWUNK! The superhero we deserve.

[–] Beaver@lemmy.ca 26 points 3 months ago

Down with Elon Musk

[–] LittleBorat3@lemmy.world 18 points 3 months ago

This kid should really let it all out in public and non-stop Musk deserves it! 🤣

[–] RubyRhod@lemm.ee 16 points 3 months ago (2 children)

How to support?

Assuming she's cut off, is there a patreon... or something?

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 11 points 3 months ago

She's fine financially.

[–] masquenox@lemmy.world 15 points 3 months ago (1 children)

She's worth a hundred Elons.

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[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 14 points 3 months ago

A highly entertaining curb stomping. 10/10, no notes.

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