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this post was submitted on 15 Jul 2024
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Conservatives: The intolerant left keeps calling us Nazis!
Nazis: We are voting for Trump.
I can at least respect that they own the label instead of cowardly insisting they're not Nazis.
just downloaded this app. u guys are really cringey
Just saw this comment. Big brain take, bro.
I get that this is posted on the Antifascism community. But it seems more than a little bit bloodthirsty. And it feels to me like the folks in the comments calling out for hunting/murdering Nazis haven't really thought that policy through to its logical conclusion. Maybe some are just fantasizing or virtue signaling, but assuming enough are willing to pick up a rifle and pull the trigger where does that lead us? Who decides whether someone is a Nazi? Do they have to be wearing a swastika? Is it enough to just express your contempt for a group that's a US minority? How much contempt?
"That's easy, just shoot the ones with swastikas"
Okay, so you show up to a flag waving Nazi rally and start shooting. They probably start shooting back. The cops get involved and shoot everybody (well maybe they don't shoot some of the Nazis). Then what happens? Antifa gets officially labeled as a domestic terrorist organization. All the news outlets talk about how terrible the group is. The FBI starts looking into everyone subscribed to this community, etc.
"No, everyone knows Nazis are bad. We'd be supported not condemned."
Alright, suppose somehow it's a revolution and the left is rounding up Nazis and guillotining them with full support of cable news. At that point everyone says they aren't a Nazi. How do you decide? This one talks like a racist, that one lives in an all-white neighborhood, that one is rich. You're walking really close to the line of becoming fascists yourself. France went through a revolution like that about 150 years ago. There's a good article about it on the anarchist library website. I think the takeaway is that a reign of terror is still a reign of terror even if the 'good guys' are in charge.
How about, instead of bloody murder, we expunge the Nazis from the police forces, establish a more socially just system of regulations in the US, and make sure anybody who acts like a Nazi gets punished for it by the state? Don't you think that would be a more effective solution?
How about abolishing police altogether as well as the state
Do you seriously think that is possible. Do you.
Plus, if you do advocate for police abolition rather than reform, don't come crying to me when one of your friends gets jumped by some skinheads and sent to the hospital for being trans.
Yeah bro, cuz cops totally prevent crime.
They could if they actually did their jobs, which they currently don't.
Yeah, Cuz they're fucking fascists. Quit licking boot.
Yes
"Just abolish the state bro, just topple the government, everything will be fine after that bro trust me it'll be a utopia. what's a power vacuum"
Better than what we currently have. You libs LOVE state sanctioned violence.
You going to Akron pride this year? If is bring your flag and I’ll come hang out with you this time :)
I will likely be there
Vigilante justice is bad
Wrong
Elaborate
You made the claim. You elaborate.
I generally wait for them to label themselves. They are itching to do so. Only reason they don't all walk around with their hate symbols on display is because they will damage parts of their lives, like their careers.
Back in the day, when I went to lots of of metal, punk, and industrial shows, nazis, and other WP assholes, would show up to shows. You had 2 choices, drive them out with violence, or end up with a nazi club. People with these types of ideologies only understand that might makes right, the language of which is violence.
Thanks seahorse. Excellent opportunity to block this community
Found the klansman
Would you like a block of the entire instance? I can do that too. I'm sorry killing killers is offensive to you.
Wow… very… civilized
Killing Nazis is always morally correct.
the groups that nazis target for extermination can't change who they are. they can't stop being black or gay or jewish or trans or whatever. but nazis can choose to stop being nazis. that's why their lives don't matter. they have made the choice to embrace fascism, an ideology that demands the death of nearly everyone on this planet. until and unless they change their beliefs, their deaths are necessary to protect the rest of us from them.
it is always morally correct to kill a nazi. every nazi killed is an innocent life saved.
wow, such a genius brain perspective, you truly are so evolved and intelligent!
Unironically, yes. Paradox of intolerance.
The paradox of intolerance doesn't exist.
Tolerance is a social contract, if one side decides to break it, then the other side doesn't need to honour it either.
Uh...yeah. That IS the premise of the paradox.
Thanks, I think so too