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[–] WagnasT@lemmy.world 216 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Finally got them potholes filled.

[–] Masterkraft0r@discuss.tchncs.de 41 points 4 months ago

that's iceland. they don't have potholes, because none of their streets get very old, see exhibit A

[–] oce@jlai.lu 115 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Boss, you'll never guess why I can't make it today.

[–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 86 points 4 months ago (3 children)

A bunch of my co-workers are situated in Iceland and, you joke, but they have had to leave the office twice because of risk of lava in about a year.

Which seems like a startlingly high number

[–] Transporter_Room_3@startrek.website 43 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (6 children)

"Which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it happened twice"

What do you even do if your office gets burned and melted by a volcano? Do you take a week "off" and all meet up in a new space? Do you look for a new job? Like damn, if the warehouse I work in burned down I'd be completely out of a job unless I can move 1,000 miles away.

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[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 45 points 4 months ago (3 children)

In Iceland it's a commonly accepted reason to stay home. Volcano-leave, we call it.

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 38 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Do you guys have a 16 letter word for it that sounds like a Klingon trying to speak French?

[–] JehovasThickness@lemmy.world 42 points 4 months ago (3 children)
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[–] Donjuanme@lemmy.world 79 points 4 months ago (7 children)

Mother nature is scary AF

Do you dig it out or just go over top with new road it's gotta be pretty effed up underneath all that, before chiseling through it and clearing it off, and where do you go with the slag if you do dig it out? Do you treat it like snow?

[–] copd@lemmy.world 78 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Bro that's the new Iceland, anything underneath has been Pompeii'd

[–] Johandea@feddit.nu 49 points 4 months ago (1 children)

This is worse than Pompeii. The ancient Roman city wasn't buried under lava, but under ash, rock and boulders. While that is still very deadly, it isn't nearly as destructive as lava. That's why we can still experience Pompeii architecture, art and culture. Excavating this road, covered in solidified lava, is extremely difficult and costly. Just go over it, once it's cooled.

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[–] IphtashuFitz@lemmy.world 29 points 4 months ago (4 children)

They did that in Hawaii decades ago when Kīlauea covered Chain of Craters road and others.

Kīlauea said “Fuck that” and covered the roads again and again, along with entire neighborhoods. The Hawaiians just let it all go back to nature now. You can drive roughly 10 miles of Chain of Craters Road now, which is in Volcanoes National Park, until it ends very much like the road in this picture.

Speaking of Kīlauea, you might be interested in reading about Jacks Lava House which survived for years as the entire neighborhood around it was reclaimed by the volcano. It was eventually reclaimed by Kīlauea as well about a decade ago.

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[–] Nouveau_Burnswick@lemmy.world 24 points 4 months ago

Just paint a yellow line and call it a day.

[–] Deceptichum@sh.itjust.works 20 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

On that note of a million questions, the soil looks pretty soily; How long would it take that new lava rock to become as soily on top?

[–] deus@lemmy.world 21 points 4 months ago (9 children)

I looked it up and unsurprisingly there's a whole Wikipedia page about this. Long story short, it takes decades for rock to become soily at all so likely a much longer time till it becomes as soily as what's around it here.

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[–] Monument@lemmy.sdf.org 14 points 4 months ago (3 children)

In Iceland it’s pretty cold a lot of the year - not insanely, but colder than a lot of plants prefer. So the rock to soil conversion happens via moss.

While on tour there last year, our guide pointed out the ages of certain lava fields, and he noted that the existing lava fields around Grindavik were between 700 and 1300 years old. My photos from the area show that they’re about 60-70% rock, with moss covering the rest. I suspect if you scraped away the moss, you’ll find slightly crumbly rock underneath (But don’t do that - do not mess with the moss in iceland). I’m not sure how long it takes for the lava to be converted into soil, but I would guess it’s more on the scale of multiple thousands of years.

This page (up until the waterfall) has some good photos of a few lava fields and gives dates for the eruptions that created them. Meandering Wild - Lava and Moss
(The photos are at the bottom of each blurb, not the top - so Eldhraun is the one with the rounded rocks and moss at 350 years old, and not the black rocks, and Dimmuborgir, at 2300 years old, is the one with the treetops shown below the craggy rocks.)

Another banger from our tour guide was that (according to him) the locals say if you get lost in an Icelandic forest, just stand up. Which is… sorta true. They only tree of real quantity there is birch, and the tallest birch I saw was about 16ish feet (5ish meters). They do not grow heavily, so they’re a bit comedic and stringy. Decades old stands of them sort of look like 1-2 year old stands planted in warmer climates - without any ground cover, of course, because while grass will grow, the usual complement of weeds, vines, and what-not does not.

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[–] TIN 77 points 4 months ago (4 children)

I like the way there's a police car there, in case people were thinking they might just go for it anyway

[–] Zoomboingding@lemmy.world 108 points 4 months ago (2 children)

You clearly don't know people

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 53 points 4 months ago (3 children)
[–] Dashi@lemmy.world 38 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

I mean, my first thought was "i wonder if you could drive across that." But I'm also smart enough to not be the first person to try... maybe the second though

[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 16 points 4 months ago

The others are already safely across in Grindavik, you're fine.

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[–] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 27 points 4 months ago

Wow, it's sure smells bad out here. Is anyone >yawn< else getting sleepy?

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[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 30 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Imagine this would happen in the US! The police would have shot the lava!

EDIT: For the Downvoters: Of course they would have shot the lava. Have you seen it? Its black!

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[–] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 28 points 4 months ago (3 children)

I visited Iceland, not too long ago. The tour guides, politely, made a point of illustrating how much of a rude menace tourists can be with their rental cars. We got a pass, of course, as we were on a tour bus every time this happened. The message was clear: use the world-class public transit and charter busses/tours where possible.

My perspective as a tourist: the cops really are needed in situations like this.

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[–] Jubei_K_08@lemmy.world 21 points 4 months ago (4 children)

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[–] WordBox@lemmy.world 21 points 4 months ago

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[–] b3an@lemmy.world 64 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Tone-deaf bosses be like, "actually we have a return to office mandate.. We're gonna need a note from your doctor."

[–] butwhyishischinabook@lemmy.world 29 points 4 months ago (1 children)

"I don't understand why turnover is so high. Ever since COVID people just don't have any work ethic. The lockdowns really destroyed our economy in irreparable ways. Wait no, don't quit."

[–] PlantJam@lemmy.world 34 points 4 months ago (11 children)

The "people don't want to work anymore" rallying cry has always confused me. Who ever wanted to work in the first place?

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[–] Etterra@lemmy.world 60 points 4 months ago (8 children)

I bet a Cybertruck couldn't make it, prove me wrong.

[–] hperrin@lemmy.world 81 points 4 months ago (11 children)

I’m not even sure they can sell Cybertruck in Iceland. Most developed countries have pedestrian safety standards that the Cybertruck can’t pass.

[–] ByteJunk@lemmy.world 36 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (16 children)

They cannot.

EU safety rules specifically forbid sharp edges (kudos to the visionary who thought about including that one...).

Additionally, it's weight is absolutely ridiculous, to the point that you cannot drive it with a standard B licence (you need at least C1, which requires specific classes and written + driving exams).

Not to mention, many streets simply cannot accommodate a car so large, and there's zero parking space for such a monstrosity in most city centers...

Edit: actually I'm not sure if Iceland included these specific EU rules, so maybe they can actually sell it there?...

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[–] instantnudeln@discuss.tchncs.de 55 points 4 months ago (3 children)

You still come in to work tomorrow, right?

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[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 52 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Earth: "Oh you want to pave things? Let me help"

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[–] SuddenDownpour@sh.itjust.works 41 points 4 months ago (10 children)

To anyone acquantinced with Iceland: What kind of logistical issues does this actually provoke? What measures do you typically (or exceptionally) take to make sure that no location runs unsupplied for too long?

[–] hairynipple@lemm.ee 28 points 4 months ago

I'm not the kind of person you wanted a response from since I know absolutely nothing, but I would imagine being an island, boats play a big role in keeping supply lines running.

[–] Monument@lemmy.sdf.org 18 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

I’ve been there on tour once, and I just looked at an online map to make sure I didn’t misremember. I also follow a guy on YouTube that talks about geology and has been focused on Iceland lately, so I think that makes me a complete expert.

Joking aside, the road to Grindavik is sort of out of the way, but it is the connector road between the south coast and the airport, so it’s like a 45 minute diversion to get to the airport from the south coast (and vice versa). And like an hour+ diversion if you’re going from the south coast to the Blue Lagoon/the geothermal power/hot water plant that provides power and heat to the airport and (I think) most of Reykjavik.
Unfortunately the power plant/Blue Lagoon is very close to the fissure, and it’s possible a future larger lava flow could damage them. (It is expected more fissures/flows will occur, but the location and size are unknown.) I’m sure both the civil engineering and tourism folks are working on spinning up alternative sites.

Grindavik, for what it’s worth, keeps bouncing between being evacuated and residents griping so much they get let back in. The Icelandic government has an offer on the table to purchase people’s homes in the town, so they move out. I think the plan is probably to abandon the town, since it’s possible this eruptive period could last hundreds of years. (Or not! We have no idea, really, just past data and informed guesses.)

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[–] beebarfbadger@lemmy.world 39 points 4 months ago

Sorry, but no compassion from me: shouldn't have built the road right under a lava stream. Stupid decision, really.

[–] Sparky@lemmy.blahaj.zone 21 points 4 months ago (4 children)

Wonder if you could drive on that obsidian, or is it too hot/sharp for any vehicle to drive over that area.

[–] VelvetGentleman@lemmy.world 45 points 4 months ago (13 children)

Obsidian forms when lava cools very rapidly, limiting crystal growth. The lava pictured above most likely cooled slowly.

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[–] timmymac@lemmy.world 21 points 4 months ago (7 children)

I want to go to Iceland because I hear it's awesome plus I like the added danger it might blow up at any moment.

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[–] JayDee@lemmy.ml 19 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

Is this normal in Iceland? What's the current situation there?

Edit: Found Details link

Edit2: looks like the town was evacuated

[–] dojan@lemmy.world 25 points 4 months ago (7 children)

It happens. Times past they’ve used buckets of seawater to save villages from encroaching lava. Icelanders are built different.

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[–] Nicoleism101@lemm.ee 19 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Okay, this is my next digital painting attempt reference no doubt. The composition is great out of the box. Easy textures, palette

[–] voldage@lemmy.world 19 points 4 months ago

"When I was your age I had to walk to school through 5kms of lava, just to avoid fighting with bears again, it was actually faster if I ran" just kidding I know we don't have money to raise children anymore

[–] suction@lemmy.world 17 points 4 months ago

Looks like a challenge for Cybertruck owners, who would be gullible enough to think their “futuristic” truck probably could drive across that.

[–] Chonk@lemmy.world 16 points 4 months ago (3 children)
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[–] Tamkish@programming.dev 14 points 4 months ago (2 children)
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[–] faizalr@kbin.run 14 points 4 months ago

I think we need more photos from the #Iceland.

[–] Hikermick@lemmy.world 14 points 4 months ago

The road is lava

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