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They've done better than expected in every election I can remember. Almost part of the playbook for them. It's been said a thousand times, but it can still be said a thousand more. You have to vote to get this extinction so don't read the polls as a done deal.
Yes, but I wonder how many of the "shy Tories" will now be "shy Reform". Or how many who say they will vote for Reform will just vote as they always have. We'll find out!
It's my opinion that a HUGE proportion of people identifying with Reform will get cold feet in the voting booth and vote Tory.
Be interesting to see. I agree. I think split won't happen in the end and Reform will only take the most of far right. But it will be a while before the Tories are centre enough to win power again.
Reform stealing the right wing voters might not push the Tories to the centre, it could push them further to the right to try to win them back.
It worked for UKIP when the Tories promised a referendum to win their voters.
I think in chasing those pulled to the crazy far right, the Tories are hemorrhaging anyone even vaguely centre.
The only way the Tories get into power is pulling in their crazier voters to the centre, where the bulk of everyone else is.
Exactly this. We cannot just take a Labour win for granted and risk staying at home or protest voting.
Good. Go back playing with matches and let responsable people govern
You just love to see it
This happened to the Republicans in California. Not one has held a state-wide office since 2011.
You know, I'm a bit scared to get my hopes up for a Conservative wipeout. I'll just end up disappointed on 5th July when they still have 100 seats or so.
Stark contrast to Macron wearing his brown pants
The feeling I'm getting is that Tories will mostly be staying at home on polling day, and I don't think that's going to be a wipeout in the long term. I don't think the bar will have to be very high for them to return next time.
What this election is very likely to do is wipeout their ability to raise money, and that's the big long term danger for them.
The tories are better funded that another political party by a large margin. They’ll be fine.
...because they have been the party of power.
People don't pay money to parties that don't have any way on delivering. If the come back with sub-100 seats, their doners will be looking for more effective ways to spend their money.
Unfortunately, if the US is any precedent, that'll mean assaults on civil society, women's, gay and trans rights, and attempts to poison discussions of environmental issues.
In the US all of that was enabled because they got their useful idiots in power. We're throwing them out. I don't see the similarity.
Dont threaten me with a good time.