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[–] kat_angstrom@lemmy.world 52 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Probably, Yes.

But maybe not if it's a weird prequel retcon action dramedy featuring Jack O'Neil, age 20, going undercover in Goa'uld high school to try and locate the evil fiends behind a counterfeit jeans smuggling ring, falling in love with 18 year old student Sam Carter, who sees through his macho act and urges him to try and see the good in every Goa'uld, even the Captain of the Football Team, Lants McDonaldson, the awkward son of Apophis who just wants to settle down with a human of each gender on a country farm, raising llamas.

[–] Jimmyeatsausage@lemmy.world 13 points 5 months ago

I would shame watch that

[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 11 points 5 months ago

This makes me want to point out that it is SG-1 canon that a clone of Jack O'Neil in the body of a teenager actually went back to high school, pretty much specifically to hit on teenage girls.

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[–] CaptPretentious@lemmy.world 34 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Depends. If it's like SG-1 and Atlantis I'm 100% on board. If it's more in line with SGU... it's more like 60% on board. I felt like SGU could have been way better, but several story plots got rushed and abandoned and certain plot points got pushed hard that were really... uninteresting IMO. But the show overall kind of... made the mistake when they introduced a lot of space ships and sort started losing it's identity. Like the stargates were just faster to get around in but no longer needed for most things.

I've had an idea in my head for a while, like some new scientist who's been working off of Carter and McKay's work has made a discovery that the gate goes to a lot more gates than they thought. Re-makes the DHD Carter made with the new research and better tech creating a "Master Gate" or "Master DHD" (basically a gate that has the training wheels removed, IE Ancient 'Admin' access mode) and the gate now travels to a whole separate gate systems that no one new about before. Leading to meeting up with certain species that were only seen like once like Oannes, to find that Nem wasn't the lone survivor of the species but was stuck and was the last survivor of the expedition. A true Nox home world (suggesting the planet we see them on was just a settlement/outpost/etc) and even the much anticipated Furlings can be found.

[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 14 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I'd be okay with picking up SGU where it left off, using the cryosleep break as an opportunity to recast and retool as needed. I think the show's first season was weak but it was really picking up and getting interesting in the second season. I can think of a bunch of interesting directions things could go from there.

Of course, everything is predicated on "is the writing good?" If you have good writing you can make something awesome out of almost any premise. And if it's bad event the best premise won't save you. It's even worse when it's bad writing on a good premise because it "ruins" it for future attempts.

[–] iMastari@kbin.social 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I think it would be interesting if they used the original older cast.

[–] teft@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

Have them in stasis for a few thousand years and they’ll age like Weir did. Have anyone who decides not to come back die in their pods.

[–] athos77@kbin.social 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The problem with Universe is that they were trying for the Battlestar Galactica audience, thereby alienating a bunch of the SG/SG1/SGA audience.

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[–] forrgott@lemm.ee 6 points 5 months ago

Oh, man, the opportunity to explore what humanity must do or show in order to be allowed to continue participating in a "higher level" of inter-galactic society that this opens up! I guess that'd be my hypothetical "make it or break it" issue if such a show was made: do they explore this issue, and how well do they tell this part of the story?

[–] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 30 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Would this new show have competent writers?

[–] MajorHavoc@programming.dev 9 points 5 months ago

It'll have the best AI that a lazy half assed effort of an intern on a weekend can find.

[–] christophski 23 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Just give us a continuation of the core SG-1 timeliness, whoever is working at stargate command now. As long as the writing is good. A reboot or recast would be the worst, laziest thing that could happen.

[–] holycrap@lemm.ee 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

This is the show I would watch. Stargate: the next generation.

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[–] slazer2au@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Surely Lorne is running the SGC by now according to Mackays hologram when Shepard got flung into the far future.

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[–] kinther@lemmy.world 20 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Consider that there was an alternate timeline already with the mirror object. How many realities could there be where Earth was brutally destroyed, never found the Stargate, or was visited by another species before finding the gate. One franchise people often forget about is Fringe. It explored many of these concepts in an interesting way.

I will watch a new Stargate show no matter what.

[–] hydroptic@sopuli.xyz 22 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I will watch a new Stargate show no matter what.

Finger on the Monkey's Paw curls

[–] MindTraveller@lemmy.ca 4 points 5 months ago

Justin Roiland and Seth MacFarlane team up to bring you It's a Goa'uldiful World, a sitcom about the wacky life of Apophis. The trailer shows us prank calls from Thor, sex scenes with Sha're, and flashbacks of Braytac and Teal'c making fart jokes

[–] Pistcow@lemm.ee 11 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Hey...hey, Daniel. I'M PICKLE JACK!!

[–] kinther@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

An animated series like Rick and Morty? Sign me up

[–] athos77@kbin.social 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Have you forgotten Infinity already?

[–] kinther@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago
[–] cybervseas@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] kinther@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

Heck yeah! Sliders is also a great series

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 19 points 5 months ago (3 children)

So, like... I never really watched SG-1 or Atlantis back when they were new. The movie also was kinda meh. What actually got me into the franchise was Universe.

I totally didn't understand why nobody liked it until I started watching SG-1. Well shit. This is goofy as fuck and just an all around good time. Universe was good, but also slow and very serious. I would love for them to explore that story, but in the goofy, campy way SG-1 and Atlantis were over the dark, brooding, super cereal tone Universe actually had.

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[–] Veraxus@lemmy.world 15 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Short answer: Yes.

Long answer: Hell yes.

[–] lgmjon64@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Counterpoint: Stargate Universe.

[–] Veritrax@lemmy.world 15 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Counter-counterpoint: Stargate Universe was awesome

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[–] KazuyaDarklight@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago (2 children)

No, the real counterpoint is Stargate Origins.

[–] lgmjon64@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

Thanks for making me remember that existed.

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[–] KazuyaDarklight@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

I want to believe it would be good, but Stargate Origins has put the fear in me.

[–] iAmTheTot@kbin.social 15 points 5 months ago (7 children)
[–] Xyre@lemmus.org 11 points 5 months ago (2 children)
[–] UPGRAYEDD@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago

If its 1/2 as good as star trek lower decks, im 100% in

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

This is the one. SG-1 was by far the best series, so I’m fine with doing it again from the perspective of a different team. Aside from basic mechanics, it really doesn’t have to have anything in common with SG-1 - the galaxy is big and there are many possible gate combinations. However the key was following a team that just seemed perfect together

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[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 14 points 5 months ago (2 children)

No I don't think I ultimately would, for a bunch of reasons.

I've said it before in this community, the 2 decades of "gritty realistic" heartburn drama ushered in by Battlestar Galactica cured my love of television. I don't currently subscribe to any streaming service and as they get more numerous, more expensive and worse I don't think I'm going to pick the habit back up.

I think I'm developing a contact allergy to resurrected IPs. Upon reading this I don't think "Oh boy a chance for more of my favorite adventures" I think "oh brother, some business suit with a neckhole infection has detected an IP they aren't monetizing hard enough." The most recent TV show to catch my eye was The Good Place, which is an original property. It was made because someone had an idea. "Do you think you'd watch a new Stargate show" sounds to me like "would you buy the industrial slop we're going to churn out anyway if we dye it the color of a thing you liked 20 years ago?" The one thing no one has there is an idea.

It's also just one of those shows where I don't know what you'd do with the setting. Star Wars and Star Trek, those settings are open enough to where you could go 90 lightyears to the right and still find cool stories. Shows like Stargate, Farscape and Babylon 5 are so character-centric that I don't know if I want to watch just another show made in that setting. Like, you could make me a Star Trek show that doesn't have the Federation in it. Set it on a Romulan warbird or something, it would work. There have been numerous works set in the Star Wars universe that didn't have to do with the Jedi or Rebels or Empire or whatever. What would you make out of the Farscape universe without Moya and the gang?

No, let it rest on what it achieved.

[–] Jesus_666@feddit.de 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

All other points aside, "the show is too character-centric and a spin-off could never work" is what a bunch of trekkies said when TNG was announced. No Trek without Kirk, Spock, and McCoy had any hope of being a good show.

Then TNG came out and it was fine.

For that matter, Atlantis worked just fine for me, as well. Universe didn't but that's mainly because it had focus issues and a weird tone. There is potential for a good new Stargate.

The question is, of course, what they'd do with it. The new Trek era has been pretty hit-or-miss and it's hard to say whether we'd get the Stargate equivalent of Picard or Strange New Worlds.

If it's another badly lit attempt at making a show out of nothing but curse words and scowls I'd pass. But if it's another fun, witty ensemble show that knows when to take itself seriously and when not to – yes, please.

See I knew someone was going to bring up TNG, that the original show was really Kirk-Spock-McCoy character centric and that was a big criticism aimed at TNG at first. And "Then TNG came out and it was fine" No it wasn't, the first two seasons are pretty rough, the show really found its footing in the third season.

I think trying to create a new Stargate show would be like trying to create a new show in the Hercules/Xena universe. Because they have basically the same problem: They ran out of ancient gods to kill before the series finale. I think they've already kinda proven they milked SG-1's setting dry because both spinoffs went "Meanwhile in another galaxy, something almost completely unrelated is happening."

[–] absquatulate@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

Agreed. At this point seeing news of a new stargate show would instantly make me ask "what will they fuck up with this one?". I'd rather not see it replicated (heh) in nowadays' world of marvelized franchises and even continuing it would be meh, seeing as the scope and the stakes grew way too high even in the original shows. Basically I feel the show was a product of its time and taking it out would screw it up. Also streaming services should stop remaking every single IP and just come up with new original shows already.

[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 10 points 5 months ago

I'm very divided. Ask me a couple of years ago and I'd be all over that. But since then every single one of the great old sci-fi franchises I loved have been methodically ruined by "remakes" and "sequels" and "retellings" and whatnot. So while I wouldn't say no, I would be extremely trepidatious. I'd be bracing myself to reject it if it turns out to be stupid.

[–] KazuyaDarklight@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago

If they learned all the right lessons from the Stargate Origins debacle.

[–] Noit@lemm.ee 6 points 5 months ago (4 children)

I’d definitely give it a try! The concept is strong enough to be that I’d even consider a full reboot, although my dream is another soft reboot where the canon is left intact and we just follow a new set of main characters, and our old favourites might pop up occasionally. Having seen Amazon do great stuff with the tail end of The Expanse I think they have the chops to make it work.

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[–] rockandsock@lemm.ee 5 points 5 months ago

I would give it a few episodes to see if it's worth sticking around for.

FYI putting it on MGM + is a sure fire way of not getting me watch.

I'm not subscribing to a service just to watch 1 or 2 shows.

[–] Disaster@sh.itjust.works 5 points 5 months ago

FINISH. STARGATE. UNIVERSE.

[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

It amazes me that Amazon (who owns MGM) has sat on this potentially lucrative franchise.

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[–] brlemworld@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

YES! I'd love if there made a series based on the ancients before and during the Atlantis

[–] JoShmoe@ani.social 3 points 5 months ago

Everyone’s new favorite sitcom PuddleDoors.

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