If only someone had said something beforehand...
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this post was submitted on 11 Aug 2023
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if only it had been fucking obvious. (it was) if only people realized that votes have consequences. (they never will)
it was - but called "project fear" of "remoaners".
Lol, it read to me that your comment was that votes won't have consequences, rather than people not realising they would. I was thinking, ummm, you're missing the point entirely. These are the consequences!
Oh you mean project fear? They will see how wrong they were! Just give it a few more decades!
They didn't realize how much Kremlin and CCP propaganda they're was on social media
Come on, no one wrote the truth onto the side of a bus. How could they know then?
As an American I'm just happy to see an article where we aren't (usually justifiably) getting clowned on for being idiots.
Thank you, England!
Let's see if the UK will still hold the crown after your next election. ;-)
Donβt jinx it!!
I bought a lot of popcorn in anticipation of Trump's reelection. I expect to be entertained.
As a half scot, half American, brexit is so much worse than trump was in the long run
Until yet. Trump destroyed the political culture in the US. But democracy is founded on a societal consenus and subtile, uncodified institutions.
Want to know what happens when you listen to Russian propaganda? This is what happens when you listen to Russian propaganda.
to be fair - it wasn't just russian propaganda.
The super-rich and economic criminals who didn't like all those regulations hindering them from making their highest profits had a good part in it as well.
Just think about Dyson - he was a HUGE fan for brexit, then he quickly set off to Singapore, to let all others suffer.
Is there a joke in that comment or did the irony blow past me before I could suck it up?
Oh... Google Nigel Farage, one of the big clowns in the Brexit movement before the referendum. Britain was going to be able to spend millions of pounds each year in healthcare iif Britain left.
He didn't waste a minute the day after the referendum. He was just "Yeah... My work here is done. See ya guys. Good luck." On the question about the NHS (healthcare) he just smiled and said that it was just a theoretical example. And then he left.
it was glorious. By then I really hoped the ones voting yes to Brexit would understand where it was going...but nooooooo.... They still thought it was going in the right direction even though the rats left the ship.
The amount of humor really peaked a year or two ago when British were stopped at the Spanish border. When interviewed they said they were surprised that they had to bring passports. If they knew this would be a result of Brexit they would never have voted yes.
The real fun were the British immigrants( who of course called themseves ex-pats) who lived full time in Spain. Most were retirees that migrated to avoid taxes and extend their retirement funds.
After Brexit, Spain said "okay, you have a year to file as a permanent resident/citizen and setup a tax ID, or you will require a Visa."
So of course, a lot of them didn't follow the new law and were summarily ejected from Spain to Britain. This includes people who owned homes in Spain, and had no legal residences in Britan. They then needed to file for Visas to go back to Spain, and apply for citizenship the long and hard way, which is not guaranteed.
Can you guess how many of them were saying they would never have voted for Brexit if they knew it would affect their immigration status too?
Who in their right mind would vote for brexit while living outside of britain soley thanks to the EU uniformity?
Do we really need to answer that question for you?
Who? The people who refuse to call themselves immigrants and instead invented the word expat, you know, to distinguish themselves from the people they were perfectly happy to see hurt by Brexit. Unfortunately (but rightly) the word expat was not the shield they thought it was.
The real fun were the British immigrants( who of course called themseves ex-pats) who lived full time in Spain. Most were retirees that migrated to avoid taxes and extend their retirement funds.
Sounds like tax fraud, because if you stay for a longer time in another country and/or the main part of your life happens in that place, it is very likely that you have to pay taxes in the new home country.
If they live in Spain and pay Spanish taxes, how is that tax fraud?
Are you sure, they do?
Are you sure they don't?
No, that's why I said, that it sounded like tax fraud. So, now that you distracted from it, back to the topic: Are you sure they pay taxes in Spain?
As far as I know people move to Spain when they retire because the cost of living is much lower there. So they get their pension from the country they are from and the pay Spanish taxes since the line in Spain.
So they avoid the tax in their home country which often is higher.
It's ok if you want to think that there is an enormous tax fraud going on, it doesn't matter.
Tbh the thing about the NHS was Boris' stunt not Nigel
I've seen interviews of British retirees in Spain who said straight up: "the point of Brexit was to stop Europeans from coming to Britain not to stop us from going to Spain. If we had known that we would have never voted leave". I kid you not...
It's been incredible watching one of the great world powers essentially commit economic suicide. The UK had such a sweet deal as one of the founding members of the EU.
The UK wasn't one of the founding members though. They were denied entry twice by France.
It's been incredible watching one of the great world powers essentially commit economic suicide
I mean, it's not great, but it's also a long way from suicide.
https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-eu-growth-idUSKBN2AB18K
βFor the EU on average, the exit of the UK from the European Union on Free Trade Agreement terms is estimated to generate an output loss of around 0.5% of GDP by the end of 2022, and some 2.25% point for the UK,β the Commission said.
I work for a scale-up that was founded in the UK. We have an office in the UK, and one in the Netherlands. When I started the Dutch office was just 4 people, with the vast majority of employees in the UK. Now it's the complete reverse. Almost everyone is in the Netherlands. The UK office even closed recently, with those remaining now having to work out of WeWork. Meanwhile the Dutch office is bursting at the seams. Key reason: most of our employees are EU citizens, who returned to the mainland post-Brexit.
Government data is always years behind common sense knowledge. It gets released after guaranteed cool off period where it can't be blamed.
Truth is, it's not the government's fault Brexit happened. Some may say it is, but they're idiots that got basic spoon fed instead of taking a few minutes into actually seeing what most politiciansβespecially localβwere saying.
I mean, the world was LOLing at Britain flirting with the idea; that should've been enough to let the English know that they're not even as informed on domestic atance as the international general public.
Free Scotland and Ireland!
David Cameron, head of government at the time, was the one who called the Brexit vote. Government isn't to blame?
The government basically had an American gas station diarrhea moment and the best they could manage on their way out was to use a single toilet paper square on their own arses. Now we still have their crap smears all over the place and it stinks more each day.
That's not to say people who voted for it aren't to blame either, but there are multiple parties who contributed to this bomb. Voters, politicians, rich people (especially the media empire moguls).
Politicians who pushed for it? Yes. Regular governmental employees, who are working in a highly politicized environment and hoping to even still have a job tomorrow? No. (Unless they voted or pushed for Brexit themselves, of course.)
Civil service? Entirely agree.
Where is the bus with the people who are surprised of these news?
Breaking away from your top trading partner was a dumb idea.
Thought this said esports decline at first
Shocked Pikachu.jpg
Yesterday I saw this post on feddit.de which seemed to suggest the opposite, at least surprisingly for me.
Both can be true?