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[–] Deceptichum@sh.itjust.works 38 points 4 months ago (1 children)

One of the greatest sci-fi authors.

[–] Zehzin@lemmy.world 19 points 4 months ago (1 children)

One of the greatest fantasy authors

[–] fogstormberry@lemmy.blahaj.zone 37 points 4 months ago (2 children)

thanks for sharing. I've been feeling pretty hopeless lately and this helped me today

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Feel free to chill around here. I'm all about uplifting peeps!

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[–] caboose2006@lemmy.ca 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Remember, it took the black death and like 1/2 the population dying to bring about this change

[–] Denvil@lemmy.one 16 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I mean the black death was like 450 years before the French revolution... I think it just took some angry French people for change

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[–] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 19 points 4 months ago (6 children)

Divine right of kings simply morphed into capitalism. We didn't get rid of jack shit, and we never will.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 27 points 4 months ago (10 children)

Feudalism is entirely different from Capitalism, which is entirely different from Socialism. Class dynamics have changed, and will change.

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[–] Phegan@lemmy.world 16 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Not to piss in the lemonade, but some places still have the divine right of kings.

[–] stiephel@feddit.de 11 points 4 months ago (1 children)

If Charles is the divine choice, why did he get cancer?

[–] Zehzin@lemmy.world 17 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] stiephel@feddit.de 6 points 4 months ago

Bro wants a refund

[–] maynarkh@feddit.nl 11 points 4 months ago

The point is that societies could progress past it, that it's not inescapable.

So the fact that there are still absolute monarchies does not invalidate that societies that are better are possible, like most of our societies today.

Every empire seems unassailable and eternal, until it doesn't. The USSR seemed like it will last beyond our lifetimes, until it didn't.

[–] ConstantPain@lemmy.world 14 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

I met a traveller from an antique land,

Who said—“Two vast and trunkless legs of stone

Stand in the desert. . . . Near them, on the sand,

Half sunk a shattered visage lies, whose frown,

And wrinkled lip, and sneer of cold command,

Tell that its sculptor well those passions read

Which yet survive, stamped on these lifeless things,

The hand that mocked them, and the heart that fed;

And on the pedestal, these words appear:

My name is Ozymandias, King of Kings;

Look on my Works, ye Mighty, and despair!

Nothing beside remains. Round the decay

Of that colossal Wreck, boundless and bare

The lone and level sands stretch far away.”

Shelley’s Poetry and Prose (1977)

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[–] Rolando@lemmy.world 13 points 4 months ago (4 children)

I've only read two books of Le Guin's, and they were both memorable:

The second one is more relevant to this meme.

[–] TSG_Asmodeus@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Absolutely 100% run (don't walk!) and get The Left Hand of Darkness. It is easily one of the best sci-fi/fantasy books I have ever read.

[–] Subverb@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I just finished it two days ago. I agree completely.

I will caution people that because of the writing style the beginning of the book (at least to me) is a bit disorienting. It takes a minute to find her rhythm.

[–] DrJenkem@lemmy.blugatch.tube 3 points 4 months ago

The Dispossessed had been in my backlog for a while now. I really need to get to it.

[–] endlessvoid@reddthat.com 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

I just finished the dispossessed. Didn't find it as compelling as reviews had me hoping. The sci-fi depiction of anarchism wasn't flattering and the main character wasn't easy to like either.

Spoiler and trigger alert: I put the book down for a while after he sexually assaulted a woman, but eventually finished it and wasn't impressed by the ending or by the fact that his assault was glossed over and not mentioned again.

[–] Rolando@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

Yes, that's a fair assessment. It's not an enjoyable book and to some extent isn't meant to be -- the cover of the version I read said something about an "ambiguous utopia," the story structure is pretty far from a Campbellian Hero's Journey, and the main character is not relatable. The book is more memorable than enjoyable.

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[–] buzz86us@lemmy.world 12 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Capitalism doesn't even work in the US prices ate kept high

[–] laughterlaughter@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago (5 children)

I'm trying to parse your sentence. Can you use punctuation?

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 12 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Capitalism doesn't even work in the US. Prices are kept high.

[–] iknowitwheniseeit@lemmynsfw.com 7 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)

Or alternately:

Capitalism doesn't even work. In the US prices are kept high.

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I was just attempting to parse the string as closely as I could.

[–] iknowitwheniseeit@lemmynsfw.com 5 points 4 months ago

Either is possible, which is why @laughterlaughter@lemmy.world was asking for punctuation!

[–] laughterlaughter@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

Thank you!

The "ate" tripped me up.

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[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 10 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Kings had nothing on capitalism. You could overthrow a king.

[–] iknowitwheniseeit@lemmynsfw.com 4 points 4 months ago

But then you ended up with another king. Overthrowing royalty was hard.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 4 months ago

You can overthrow Capitalism, it weakens itself.

[–] Daxtron2@startrek.website 2 points 4 months ago

Easier to kill a man than an idea.

[–] BigBenis@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

The problem is that this time we've likely got a few decades at the most to form a movement before a huge chunk of the world becomes uninhabitable and society crumbles under the weight of war and famine.

Looking at how things are going, I have little hope that the majority of people are willing to let go of the status quo.

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[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

and look where that got kings, EATEN

[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

great quote from an amazing author.

any idea why the image saves a .json?

[–] dditty@lemm.ee 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Is this quote from The Dispossessed? Or another of her many works?

[–] xfc@lemdro.id 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] dditty@lemm.ee 2 points 4 months ago

Thanks! What a great speech! Her voice shines through as always

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