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It's tiring to tell libs that its actually CPC instead of CCP.

  • CCP = Chinese China Party (???)
  • CPC = Chinese Party of China (correct)

I'm literally going to drop kick someone who gets it wrong!!!

Thoughts? Is it worthwhile to correct people on this?

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[–] Owl@hexbear.net 49 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] hello_hello@hexbear.net 23 points 6 months ago

Stallman was there at the long march riding a majestic Gnu.

[–] Elon_Musk@hexbear.net 36 points 6 months ago (1 children)

China's Chinese Communist Party

[–] hello_hello@hexbear.net 22 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Heyyy that looks familiar...

[–] Pluto@hexbear.net 17 points 6 months ago

Hello...

It's me...

Song kicks in.

[–] Red_Sunshine_Over_Florida@hexbear.net 32 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

We shouldn't correct them. The distinction makes a good identifier.

CCP- Supporter of insane "New Cold War" foreign policy in the midst of the current poly crisis that plagues 21st century human civilization.

CPC- Supporter of sitting down with the Chinese and trying to hash out policies that stabilizes a world beset by said crisis.

[–] hello_hello@hexbear.net 23 points 6 months ago (1 children)

True. It's a great litmus test but it's still extremely painful to hear from people who are well meaning but stubborn since media outlets in the west only say CCP.

It's one of those red scare hurdles that is everywhere, especially in the US of A.

[–] Red_Sunshine_Over_Florida@hexbear.net 16 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I understand. It irks me too as it reminds me of the disastrous pivoting to Asia that I feel is part of the current trend towards a more unstable world.

On another level, it annoys the hell out of me just as a matter of trying to be polite to someone by referring to them by how they call themselves.

[–] booty@hexbear.net 12 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Nah, correcting them is a good talking point and it doesn't erode their identifiability because they won't accept the correction. CNN, Washington Post, NYT, NPR, etc all say CCP so as far as they're concerned God himself bestowed the name CCP on them and nothing could possibly change their minds. But it can still catch unsuspecting default-libs who look into it and go "hang on, why does every single Western source literally just use an incorrect name for a foreign political party?"

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[–] dannoffs@hexbear.net 30 points 6 months ago (1 children)

China's Chinese China Party of Chinese China

[–] hello_hello@hexbear.net 24 points 6 months ago

At least someone gets it.

[–] keepcarrot@hexbear.net 30 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Don't, it's a simple shibboleth and not worth the effort. Pulling people up on it makes them more reflexively suspicious of you. People using it means they're probably a lib.

[–] dead@hexbear.net 34 points 6 months ago (2 children)

The OP is doing a bit. Read the post more carefully. "Chinese China Party" "Chinese Party of China". It's funny

[–] keepcarrot@hexbear.net 31 points 6 months ago (2 children)

It's too early to read and think

[–] bbnh69420@hexbear.net 13 points 6 months ago

Jesus Christ

[–] Zuzak@hexbear.net 29 points 6 months ago (1 children)

There's a typo in your post:

  • CCP = Communal Communist Party
  • CPC = Communist Party of Communism
[–] hello_hello@hexbear.net 18 points 6 months ago

Potato, Potato.

[–] kleeon@hexbear.net 28 points 6 months ago (5 children)

Chinese scholars usually write it as CCP. This shit is something that only western china fans care about

[–] hello_hello@hexbear.net 22 points 6 months ago

What do you think hexbear is? I'm actually the president of the Chinese Party of China fan club (also known as hexbear).

[–] edge@hexbear.net 18 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Chinese scholars usually write it as CCP.

Source? Why would they use the wrong acronym for their own country's government?

[–] oregoncom@hexbear.net 14 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Because acronyms are a dumb anglo convention. Also 90% of the time in China people just call it the Communist Party.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 13 points 6 months ago

We're just so busy, we don't have time to say entire words! Or as I like to say wjsbwdhttsew!

[–] kleeon@hexbear.net 13 points 6 months ago

idk people like wang hui and li minqi write CCP. It's very common for chinese academics to use that acronym when publishing in english

Why would they use the wrong acronym for their own country's government?

CPC and CCP are both correct

[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 17 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Still pretty useful as a Shibboleth. But both points suggest we only let the cool people know it should be CPC, no use chasing libs around on semantics.

[–] CloutAtlas@hexbear.net 17 points 6 months ago

Also to distinguish from the Cuban Communist Party.

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[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 27 points 6 months ago (2 children)

CCP is such a dead giveaway you're dealing with a crank.

[–] shreddingitlater@hexbear.net 23 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Umm sweaty, it's called 中国共产党, which is literally China Communist Party (CCP). Checkmate alphys-smug

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[–] Maoo@hexbear.net 23 points 6 months ago (5 children)

No it's CCC vs CCC.

Chinese China of China vs. Chinese China China. The former is the correct one.

Jokes aside CPC is a dog whistle for cool people and CCP is a sign that someone is a big ol' lib. I don't correct people because the big ol' libs don't need to learn this, they should get radicalized first.

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[–] theposterformerlyknownasgood@hexbear.net 21 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I thought it was the Chinese party of Chinese China?

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[–] iridaniotter@hexbear.net 20 points 6 months ago (1 children)

???

CCP stands for Chinese Confucianist Party. Please watch theory.

[–] hello_hello@hexbear.net 12 points 6 months ago

Damn, this is what I get for not binge watching.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 20 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

^Chinese^ ^Party^ ^of^ ^China^
... hey wait a minute!

[–] hello_hello@hexbear.net 16 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Don't tell me you say Chinese China Party smh my head.

[–] Erika3sis@hexbear.net 18 points 6 months ago (1 children)

CCP = Click Clack Paddywack

[–] blakeus12@hexbear.net 13 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] Erika3sis@hexbear.net 13 points 6 months ago

Xi Jinping came rolling home

[–] 2812481591@hexbear.net 17 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

CCP is the correct order of the words in chinese.

However, CPC is the official translation, and CCP unnecessarily centers "Chinese", insinuating xenophobia. CCP is probably a self-translation from anti-communist chinese expats who might have limited english fluency and didn't use many english sources of information. People saying it's supposed to Evoke the CCCP I think are off the mark.

IMO, I think CCP can be rejected as an incorrect translation, because the word used in the original is Zhōngguó, not Zhōnghuá.

Now, the word used in the named PRC is Zhōnghuá, so the most accurate translation of that would be Chinese People's Republic? now that's cursed. I bet that's the official translation in some language, but none I know.

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[–] emizeko@hexbear.net 17 points 6 months ago

incredible bit chefs-kiss

[–] Des@hexbear.net 17 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

no it's seeee seeee peeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee owl-pissed

[–] hello_hello@hexbear.net 22 points 6 months ago (1 children)

ICUP = International Chinese Union of People.

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[–] Mindfury@hexbear.net 15 points 6 months ago (1 children)

CCCP: Chinese Communist China Party

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[–] mar_k@hexbear.net 14 points 6 months ago (1 children)

i argued with a lib about this and how westerners did the same thing during vietnam with VCP instead of CPV to racistly emphasize the nationality.. didn't go anywhere they just called me a crazy reaching tankie and said chinese communist party "rolls off the tongue better"

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[–] buh@hexbear.net 14 points 6 months ago

Not worth it unless/until they no longer have the hostile mindset towards China westoids tend to have

[–] JohnBrownNote@hexbear.net 12 points 6 months ago

perhaps it's more useful to us as a shibboleth

[–] khizuo@hexbear.net 12 points 6 months ago

Actually, tankie, it's Cee Cee Pee (Chinese embarrassment enveloping Communism except everyone Performs evilness everywhere)

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